Scottie Barnes' Era is Here!

[The Claw Reborn]

This is a Scottie thread but because Boucher’s name is being mentioned, I am throwing my two cents to this discussion.

I have no problem with Boucher, he is a role player, an added piece to a bench. He likes to cut from the weakside and goes to the basket, his teammates has to find him. Darko has to put him in a position to succeed. He however has to limit Boucher propensity of throwing Hail Marys early in the shot clock. Teach also the player to stop getting baited with pumpfakes, probably too much adrenaline off the bench and very eager to make in impact. He can also change the complexion of the game and we have seen that over the years that he is with this team.

Could be the coaching staff are trying to rotate between Boucher or McDaniels every other game.

He can be a good trade ballast when the opportunity presents itself, for now maximize his strengths.

[DanH]

We've been 6 points per 100 better with Boucher on the court than not this season. Hardly a big negative. He's been stuck playing C too, which he's not good at, still making positive contributions.

That's in line with Schroder's and Poeltl's and Pascal's impacts thus far, though perhaps even more impressive since Boucher has played so much with the bench which has generally been so bad.

Nothing compared to the two current stars of the team: Scottie Barnes (+24 point on/off swing) and OG Anunoby (a truly unbelievable +34 point on/off swing).

Malachi has dragged himself up to a -24 point swing, which is awful but better than it was fairly recently, and McDaniels very much hasn't, still sitting at -38 points and should probably not play unless there are (more) injuries. Precious was a mess in terms of impact too, though hopefully a more concrete bench rotation will help him when he is back. Would love to see Koloko play too, once he's healthy, he had great impact numbers last year.

[DanH]

One other thing: Boucher has cost us late in a couple games with some boneheaded stuff, but generally it just means he's playing clutch minutes because everyone else is hurt, fouled out, or playing terribly, and generally you wouldn't use him in high leverage situations like that. Doesn't mean he's not valuable as an energy bench piece.

[chris]

first 10 mins or so of old man and the 3 is about scottie's leap

nekias points out that what he's doing is extra incredible because he's thriving despite being placed in an offensive context that is not ideal for him, is in lacking space, playing alongside players that limit what he can do rather than accentuate it, etc.

just stop me if you've heard any of that before

[JawsGT]

Let's see them with OG both times and with us not on back to backs while they are rested. We played both games tight (or led) at the half and faded in the 3rd (and for the second game, the very end of the third). They're better but the difference is not that much. So far, unfortunately, the only team I'm worried about is Boston. Will be interesting to see how our game goes.

There is a massive difference between those two teams. The raps, if they continue to improve (especially the half court offence), can narrow the gap somewhat but we are not in the same tier as Philly.

[Primer]

One other thing: Boucher has cost us late in a couple games with some boneheaded stuff, but generally it just means he's playing clutch minutes because everyone else is hurt, fouled out, or playing terribly, and generally you wouldn't use him in high leverage situations like that. Doesn't mean he's not valuable as an energy bench piece.

I think Boucher is valuable but has more value to another team.

He has 2 DNP-CD this season and we won both games.

Would love to swap him for someone who can shoot.

[SkywalkerAC]

Scottie has 5 (!) 3-point blocks already this season. Bol Bol lead the league in these last year with 16...

[SkywalkerAC]

People aren't whining so much about Scottie's trainer anymore.

[Kagemusha]

People aren't whining so much about Scottie's trainer anymore.

Turns out Scottie only needed to work on his shooting after all.
As soon as he checks that box, his immense IQ and natural abilities are enough for him to make that leap.

[Primer]

People aren't whining so much about Scottie's trainer anymore.

Whatever he did this summer worked.

[planetmars]

I think Boucher is valuable but has more value to another team.

He has 2 DNP-CD this season and we won both games.

Would love to swap him for someone who can shoot.

I think we need to move him for some roster balance. But Koloko being out, presumably all year.. and Precious being super fragile for some reason makes it a bit tough too. Boucher isn't a center, but can play that role. And the games he missed were against the Spurs who don't really play a conventional center. And Minny where we had Precious.

If Koloko is back to 100% and can actually play then I'm totally moving on from Chris. He's the type of acquisition any contender would love to have. He does the lunch pail stuff that all these contenders would want. And you just throw him out there for limited minutes. I bet he finds a way to grab an important offensive rebound. Or blocks a 3pt shot or something when you need it. And he's relatively cheap although has an additional year on his contract which may not be too appealing to some teams that are hovering over the luxury cap.

[Primer]

I think we need to move him for some roster balance. But Koloko being out, presumably all year.. and Precious being super fragile for some reason makes it a bit tough too. Boucher isn't a center, but can play that role. And the games he missed were against the Spurs who don't really play a conventional center. And Minny where we had Precious.

If Koloko is back to 100% and can actually play then I'm totally moving on from Chris. He's the type of acquisition any contender would love to have. He does the lunch pail stuff that all these contenders would want. And you just throw him out there for limited minutes. I bet he finds a way to grab an important offensive rebound. Or blocks a 3pt shot or something when you need it. And he's relatively cheap although has an additional year on his contract which may not be too appealing to some teams that are hovering over the luxury cap.

If Boucher could bring back a shooter I'm fine upgrading Thad to his break in case of emergency C role. When were all healthy Boucher is our 4th string C.

[G____Deane]

I think we need to move him for some roster balance. But Koloko being out, presumably all year.. and Precious being super fragile for some reason makes it a bit tough too. Boucher isn't a center, but can play that role. And the games he missed were against the Spurs who don't really play a conventional center. And Minny where we had Precious.

If Koloko is back to 100% and can actually play then I'm totally moving on from Chris. He's the type of acquisition any contender would love to have. He does the lunch pail stuff that all these contenders would want. And you just throw him out there for limited minutes. I bet he finds a way to grab an important offensive rebound. Or blocks a 3pt shot or something when you need it. And he's relatively cheap although has an additional year on his contract which may not be too appealing to some teams that are hovering over the luxury cap.

Why are we presuming koloko is out all year, I've heard nothing except respiratory and zero updates.

[planetmars]

Why are we presuming koloko is out all year, I've heard nothing except respiratory and zero updates.

Just a feeling. Remember he didn't play in Summer League either. That was in May/June. It's now November. Did he even get a chance to train in the off season? I'm just not too optimistic about him. And of course our front office will say nothing when it comes to someone's injury status.

[LJ2]

It's still early in the season so I don't want to get too carried away with the Scottie hype. Teams are going to start game planning for him soon so we're going to get to see if he's the type of star Pascal is or if he's the type Kawai is. Not throwing shade at Pascal, he's a great player, but we know his limitations.

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