Pistons @ Raptors Sun Nov 19th 4:00PM ET

[G____Deane]

Kids stuff all day. Just got home. Will try to watch later but sounds like a feel good win.

It was the laugher we were hoping for

[slaw]

Pistons are terrible. Not sure why the Monty Williams hire was that necessary for them. I know Bogdanovic is hurt but come on. I’ve watched 3 of their games now and they look worse every time. Bit early to throw in the towel but I’d be pretty upset if I was a Pistons fan watching this team lose over and over and not get any better.

Looks like the bench has now mostly sorted itself out. If Achiuwa can play like that 90% of the time, it would help so much.

[LJ2]

Didn't the Pistons make Monty one of the highest paid coaches in the NBA? Can't remember the numbers but I recall it was pretty ridiculous.

[G____Deane]

Pistons are terrible. Not sure why the Monty Williams hire was that necessary for them. I know Bogdanovic is hurt but come on. I’ve watched 3 of their games now and they look worse every time. Bit early to throw in the towel but I’d be pretty upset if I was a Pistons fan watching this team lose over and over and not get any better.

Looks like the bench has now mostly sorted itself out. If Achiuwa can play like that 90% of the time, it would help so much.

Clearly, unashamably unreservably embarrassingly tanking for a top 3 pick....they'll be a force in 3 years

[A.I]

Clearly, unashamably unreservably embarrassingly tanking for a top 3 pick....they'll be a force in 3 years

If they don't upset Cade by then and he requests a trade...let the cycle continue.

[G____Deane]

If they don't upset Cade by then and he requests a trade...let the cycle continue.

Could easily be. If they won't come ot Toronto, player empowerment means no one will play in Detroit.
Giannis has saved Milwaukee, how long will Ant stay with the Timberpuppies?

[slaw]

Clearly, unashamably unreservably embarrassingly tanking for a top 3 pick....they'll be a force in 3 years

I doubt Cade is going to wait around for 3-4 years to stop being terrible.

[Kagemusha]

Could easily be. If they won't come ot Toronto, player empowerment means no one will play in Detroit.
Giannis has saved Milwaukee, how long will Ant stay with the Timberpuppies?

If Masai doesn't right his rudderless ship,
he could be dealing with a similar situation with 4.

[Primer]

If Masai doesn't right his rudderless ship,
he could be dealing with a similar situation with 4.

We're in a rut by Raptors standards. We are leaps and bounds in a better situation than Detroit. If we were that bad I'd be despondent.

[golden]

We're in a rut by Raptors standards. We are leaps and bounds in a better situation than Detroit. If we were that bad I'd be despondent.

Yeah, I mean 48 wins and a solid playoff berth in 2022, followed by a .500 season in 2023 is considered a disaster in the Masai era.

This front office has made roster mistakes recently, yes, but they do hold themselves and the franchise to a pretty high standard.

[planetmars]

42 comments after a huge win?
I guess most of RR only likes the losses...or night games

Sunday afternoon is tough. Family stuff. Plus lots of sports on tv, especially if you are a football fan.

By the way the Grey Cup was awesome, even though my team lost. Green Day still has it! Way to go Hamilton for putting on a great show.

[The Claw Reborn]

Yeah, I mean 48 wins and a solid playoff berth in 2022, followed by a .500 season in 2023 is considered a disaster in the Masai era.

This front office has made roster mistakes recently, yes, but they do hold themselves and the franchise to a pretty high standard.

Majority of the fan base are enthusiastic about this team with Scottie as the future.

But Only a number of forum posters here considers more than half of the team as dumb/ trash with low BBIQ. One leading that narrative on a daily.

meaning if this team wins, only 1/3 were responsible to the victory, rest are dumb/ trash and low BBIQ.
if the team loses, same standards and get emphasized.

[Kagemusha]

We're in a rut by Raptors standards. We are leaps and bounds in a better situation than Detroit. If we were that bad I'd be despondent.

I have no doubt Masai wants to reorient his ship.
Firing Nursing, letting Fred walk and shopping Pascal is a sign of that.
But his decisions post championship has not been up to his standards.

Player empowerment is real and we think Scottie wants to win too.

[MixxAOR]

I have no doubt Masai wants to reorient his ship.
Firing Nursing, letting Fred walk and shopping Pascal is a sign of that.
But his decisions post championship has not been up to his standards.

Player empowerment is real and we think Scottie wants to win too.

they were ready to resign Fred(price was too steep) so basketball decision making is still questionable

[A.I]

they were ready to resign Fred(price was too steep) so basketball decision making is still questionable

Depends who you believe I guess. If recall, it was reported that Fred declined an extension, but Fred on a podcast said he was never formally offered an extension.

It wasn't a bad idea to bring Fred back at a reasonable contract just to retain him as an asset, but the Rockets swooped in and offered him the max.