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    Raptors 2023-2024 Trade Deadline


    Seem like everyone is in good spirits.
    However, let's be real, this team isn't good enough 2 compete for championship.
    Unfortunately, NBA is a business and we have a lot of important upcoming Free Agents.
    We can't do what we did last year, honestly we should of started the process last year, it's time 2 start moving guys out who will not been here in the long run.
    We have been loosing players for nothing and adding players that we shouldn't have.

    State your Raptor Trades; Anything in Rumor mill about Raptors Trades.
    Conversation about players being dealth or what we're getting.
    Let's have a proper and reasonable discussion.


    "Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
    My kitchen is always open to friends"

  • #2
    The only trade coming is trading in any expectations for significant trades....

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    • #3
      Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
      Let's have a proper and reasonable discussion.
      Who are you?
      Bring the doc back to us !!!



      Anyway, this one-

      Toronto Raptors Receive: G Chris Paul, F Jonathan Kuminga, 2026 First-Round Pick (GSW), 2028 First-Round Pick (GSW)

      Golden State Warriors Receive: F/C Pascal Siakam

      Pascal said he will not resign to the team that he gets traded to?
      Who wouldn't want to resign in Golden State, helloooo...

      CP3 would be great for us.
      Maybe Kuminga is who everyone thinks he is, maybe not.
      Hey even the great Warriors makes mistakes too (see Wiseman. see Poole)

      Last edited by Kagemusha; Mon Nov 20, 2023, 05:23 PM.

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      • #4


        Kings were hoping Keegan Murray would make a jump in his second year but if they don't want to wait then Raptors should jump on it. OG is only fit that makes sense for Kings though
        Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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        • #5
          When a player is an expiring.. don't think Keegan Murray as a return or you will be disappointed. More like their 2024 and 2026 draft picks and a guy like Harrison Barnes. The 2024 pick will likely be in the low 20's and in what seems like a pretty weak draft. It's similar to what Philly got for Harden.

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          • #6
            Kagemusha wrote: View Post

            Who are you?
            Bring the doc back to us !!!



            Anyway, this one-

            Toronto Raptors Receive: G Chris Paul, F Jonathan Kuminga, 2026 First-Round Pick (GSW), 2028 First-Round Pick (GSW)

            Golden State Warriors Receive: F/C Pascal Siakam

            Pascal said he will not resign to the team that he gets traded to?
            Who wouldn't want to resign in Golden State, helloooo...

            CP3 would be great for us.
            Maybe Kuminga is who everyone thinks he is, maybe not.
            Hey even the great Warriors makes mistakes too (see Wiseman. see Poole)
            It's Christmas Time, I've been on the naughty list, I would like 2 get some nice gifts, so I'm trying be more humble..lol.

            Who I'm kidding, F&%^ Santa, fat F&^&.
            Santa hasn't delivered my Oled TV, 3 year's and counting, hopefully this is the year, I've been a lot better...hahaha.

            I'm still trying 2 find nice Oled TV, ..Boxing Day has been a real drag, when comes 2 that.

            Anyway, as for your proposal.
            It's interesting, I wish Chris Paul contract wasn't guaranteed for next year, don't think raptors want him, period.
            Kuminga and draft capital is nice touch.
            Definitely need a third team Siakim 2 go 2 the warriors.
            If we can steal Moses Moody and Bradin Podziemski, we can give other assets, Flynn, boucher, trent, porter..they would love 2 have porter back..
            Definitely those pieces could work out in a bigger and Blockbuster deal.
            "Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
            My kitchen is always open to friends"

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            • #7
              planetmars wrote: View Post
              When a player is an expiring.. don't think Keegan Murray as a return or you will be disappointed. More like their 2024 and 2026 draft picks and a guy like Harrison Barnes. The 2024 pick will likely be in the low 20's and in what seems like a pretty weak draft. It's similar to what Philly got for Harden.
              Kings already traded their 2024 pick to the Hawks.

              They have to include Murray or they don't have shit to offer.

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              • #8
                MixxAOR wrote: View Post


                Kings were hoping Keegan Murray would make a jump in his second year but if they don't want to wait then Raptors should jump on it. OG is only fit that makes sense for Kings though
                I'm not dealing OG for Murray.

                They can get Pascal though.

                No idea why you think he doesn't make sense for them, he'd fit real nice next to Sabonis and he'd be replacing Barnes in their starting lineup. That's a massive upgrade.

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                • #9
                  Primer wrote: View Post

                  I'm not dealing OG for Murray.

                  They can get Pascal though.

                  No idea why you think he doesn't make sense for them, he'd fit real nice next to Sabonis and he'd be replacing Barnes in their starting lineup. That's a massive upgrade.
                  From listening Kings podcasts, they are fans of OG most of time. With Pascal most Kings fans don't see the fit. They want a defender who can space the floor. Kings management could be thinking something else though who knows.
                  Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                  • #10
                    Primer wrote: View Post

                    I'm not dealing OG for Murray.

                    They can get Pascal though.

                    No idea why you think he doesn't make sense for them, he'd fit real nice next to Sabonis and he'd be replacing Barnes in their starting lineup. That's a massive upgrade.
                    Agree.
                    Isn't that something, everyone who knows basketball know how much better OG is than Siakim, but if u try 2 relate that Siakim loyalist and fans, who thinks his a superstar and his best on this squad, well news flash, his not.
                    Watch the games with OG and without, u would understand. If Siakim wasn't there, I honestly think they would play better without him, no slight or hate, just the offense would run smoother and roles individual players would be more set.
                    Hence the trade value is way, way, way higher of OG than Siakim.
                    I'm pretty sure if u asked every management, coach, players..who would u rather have, the answer is simple..is OG.
                    That's why, I'm not happy that Masai didn't lock him up with longer contract or try 2 extended a year ago or the year before.
                    Could over pay, if u did, that contract would be bargain even now.
                    U got guys like, Thad, Porter, Boucher, Trent..making good money, but the value to there team is non existing, if we're speaking frankly.

                    If it was me, I try 2 move Siakim asap, Dec 15th, contract embargo is lifted and players that have signed this year could be moved.

                    Siakim to Sacramento

                    Trade

                    Toronto receives

                    Harrison Barnes
                    Keegan Murray
                    Davion Mitchell

                    Is it alot, yes it is, that's what Masai would want from Sacramento, but this deal is predicated, only if Siakim has Handshake agreement with Sacramento that he would be getting Max money..vise versa, bc Sacramento is giving alot, I think.
                    "Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
                    My kitchen is always open to friends"

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                    • #11
                      Primer wrote: View Post

                      I'm not dealing OG for Murray.

                      They can get Pascal though.

                      No idea why you think he doesn't make sense for them, he'd fit real nice next to Sabonis and he'd be replacing Barnes in their starting lineup. That's a massive upgrade.
                      Kings probably want shooters around Fox and OG fits that a lot better than Pascal does. It's going to be the same problem we have with too many guys mucking up the paint.

                      Siakam's game is built to be the center piece of an offense more than supporting cast. After his MIP year he basically focused on replacing Kawhi more than becoming a better version of what he was that year. Not his fault, as that was probably managements vision for him, but it might make it more difficult to find the right trade fit for him now.

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                      • #12
                        LJ2 wrote: View Post

                        Kings probably want shooters around Fox and OG fits that a lot better than Pascal does. It's going to be the same problem we have with too many guys mucking up the paint.

                        Siakam's game is built to be the center piece of an offense more than supporting cast. After his MIP year he basically focused on replacing Kawhi more than becoming a better version of what he was that year. Not his fault, as that was probably managements vision for him, but it might make it more difficult to find the right trade fit for him now.
                        I think you just described why OG is a better fit, not that Pascal is a bad fit.

                        Sabonis, Fox, Hueter, Murray are all good floor spacers. Pascal would do great playing with those guys.

                        If we got Murray in the deal they could start Vazenkov of Duarte who are also both good shooters.

                        The Kings would not have spacing issues with Pascal.

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                        • #13
                          Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post

                          Agree.
                          Isn't that something, everyone who knows basketball know how much better OG is than Siakim, but if u try 2 relate that Siakim loyalist and fans, who thinks his a superstar and his best on this squad, well news flash, his not.
                          Watch the games with OG and without, u would understand. If Siakim wasn't there, I honestly think they would play better without him, no slight or hate, just the offense would run smoother and roles individual players would be more set.
                          Hence the trade value is way, way, way higher of OG than Siakim.
                          I'm pretty sure if u asked every management, coach, players..who would u rather have, the answer is simple..is OG.
                          That's why, I'm not happy that Masai didn't lock him up with longer contract or try 2 extended a year ago or the year before.
                          Could over pay, if u did, that contract would be bargain even now.
                          U got guys like, Thad, Porter, Boucher, Trent..making good money, but the value to there team is non existing, if we're speaking frankly.

                          If it was me, I try 2 move Siakim asap, Dec 15th, contract embargo is lifted and players that have signed this year could be moved.

                          Siakim to Sacramento

                          Trade

                          Toronto receives

                          Harrison Barnes
                          Keegan Murray
                          Davion Mitchell

                          Is it alot, yes it is, that's what Masai would want from Sacramento, but this deal is predicated, only if Siakim has Handshake agreement with Sacramento that he would be getting Max money..vise versa, bc Sacramento is giving alot, I think.
                          Here's another one that includes Huerter

                          Toronto Raptors Receive: G/F Kevin Huerter, F Keegan Murray, G Davion Mitchell, F PJ Dozier, 2026 First-Round Pick (SAC), 2028 First-Round Pick (SAC)

                          Sacramento Kings Receive: F/C Pascal Siakam


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                          • #14
                            Primer wrote: View Post

                            Kings already traded their 2024 pick to the Hawks.

                            They have to include Murray or they don't have shit to offer.
                            They won't offer Murray for an expiring contract or they are dumb.

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                            • #15
                              Primer wrote: View Post

                              I think you just described why OG is a better fit, not that Pascal is a bad fit.

                              Sabonis, Fox, Hueter, Murray are all good floor spacers. Pascal would do great playing with those guys.

                              If we got Murray in the deal they could start Vazenkov of Duarte who are also both good shooters.

                              The Kings would not have spacing issues with Pascal.
                              Yeah, I don't think Pascal will necessarily be a bad fit with the Kings, but he's probably not going to move the needle for them as much as OG. Fox is the the head of that snake and his game is built on speed and getting into the paint. They aren't going to ask him to be more of a shooter so Pascal can do his thing.

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