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  • grindhouse wrote: View Post

    dont forget flynn had high steal numbers as well it doesnt translate most times
    Flynn had 54 in 38 games. Nothing special. Curry had 86 in 34 games that season.
    If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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    • Steals is a not bad indicator. Not calling it best though

      Steal Rates In College Just Might Be The Best Indicator Of NBA Success | by Aidan Berg | UNPLUGG'D MAG | Medium
      Last edited by MixxAOR; Fri May 3, 2024, 01:38 PM.
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      • Found this interesting

        "My best guess is that a strong steal rate reflects an inherent understanding of the game and a strong basketball IQ. Players who lack the measurables to be lockdown defenders at the NBA level can rack up steals in the college game because they see the court well and can anticipate better than others."
        If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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        • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post

          Found this interesting

          "My best guess is that a strong steal rate reflects an inherent understanding of the game and a strong basketball IQ. Players who lack the measurables to be lockdown defenders at the NBA level can rack up steals in the college game because they see the court well and can anticipate better than others."
          Yeah it's what i initially missed on Scottie.

          Dean goes into more

          How good is Scottie Barnes? | Dean On Draft
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          • i havent seen anyone mention bobi klintman or maybe i missed it

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            • grindhouse wrote: View Post
              i havent seen anyone mention bobi klintman or maybe i missed it
              He’s projected as a later 1st round pick. Once he comes over from playing in the Australian league and does some workouts we'll know a little more of where he may fit draft wise.
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              • If we stay in the top 6 and use the pick.... Any input on the SG from Tennesse Knecht ? He can play. He put up close to 40 against a good college team in Purdue. Have not gone to far back in the thread to see if this has been kicked around....
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                • Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
                  If we stay in the top 6 and use the pick.... Any input on the SG from Tennesse Knecht ? He can play. He put up close to 40 against a good college team in Purdue. Have not gone to far back in the thread to see if this has been kicked around....
                  Looks like his shot shouldn't have any problem translating to the NBA. I don't know think he'll be able to get his own shot at that level and might be reliant on others which makes him comparable to someone like Bogdan Bogdanovic. Good player, but maybe with a top 6 pick you want a chance at someone with a chance at being an all star. He isn't a bad defender and has size and puts in effort, so like Gradey how he does on that end will probably determine if he can stay on the floor. For me he's in the 10-15 range of the lottery.

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                  • Draft lottery is this Sunday. Big day for Raps fans.

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                    • From Hoopshype:

                      HoopsHype also spoke with several NBA executives and scouts for their insight on the prospects for the fourth edition of the aggregate mock draft. The consensus from a majority of NBA talent evaluators is this draft class isn’t as top heavy with franchise-altering talent, but is deep with several potential sleepers to be selected.

                      “When you look at this draft, you have to drag down a lot of these players and think of them as 20-30 types of picks,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “The lottery guys in a normal draft would be 10-30. There are no real top-end lottery guys. If you’re thinking of getting a franchise-altering guy, I’d temper that and try to get a good role player. If you’re drafting at the top of the draft, you should try and get some value for that pick on the trade market.”

                      https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-agg...ce=parsely-api

                      Lottery guys being 10-30 in a normal draft year sounds more than a bit hyperbolic. But it would make losing out on the top 6 and giving the pick to the Spurs a lot less painful if true.

                      If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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                      • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
                        From Hoopshype:

                        HoopsHype also spoke with several NBA executives and scouts for their insight on the prospects for the fourth edition of the aggregate mock draft. The consensus from a majority of NBA talent evaluators is this draft class isn’t as top heavy with franchise-altering talent, but is deep with several potential sleepers to be selected.

                        “When you look at this draft, you have to drag down a lot of these players and think of them as 20-30 types of picks,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “The lottery guys in a normal draft would be 10-30. There are no real top-end lottery guys. If you’re thinking of getting a franchise-altering guy, I’d temper that and try to get a good role player. If you’re drafting at the top of the draft, you should try and get some value for that pick on the trade market.”

                        https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-agg...ce=parsely-api

                        Lottery guys being 10-30 in a normal draft year sounds more than a bit hyperbolic. But it would make losing out on the top 6 and giving the pick to the Spurs a lot less painful if true.
                        It also makes me feel like if we keep the pick we should try our hardest to trade it and only use it if we can't find value for it.

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                        • Primer wrote: View Post

                          It also makes me feel like if we keep the pick we should try our hardest to trade it and only use it if we can't find value for it.
                          i think this will be a good draft not in order
                          sarr
                          dalton
                          cody
                          matas
                          edey
                          klintman
                          reed
                          hollard

                          a few more names i cant think of off the top. but the potential is there.

                          the way i look at this draft is who is the guy that has the skill set that one fits with scottie and two skills are hard to find.

                          dalton, cody edey for me maybe i can see the fit
                          dalton i really think he will be a elite scorer. and i see a bit of killer in him.

                          cody i think can develop into a unstoppable force

                          edey late makes too much sense

                          i can kinda pass on sarr because klintman will be there late.

                          also who is worth trading for? maybe bam if miami breaks there team.

                          i will give a pass this year i havent had time to dive deep as I normally would. so the first post in this thread was dalton so thats who i am going with

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                          • This Sunday will really determine how close we need to pay attention to the draft. Will we be top 6 or not. Can we dangle that pick in a bigger trade? Is there a player that fits that will be in our range?
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                            • WJF wrote: View Post
                              This Sunday will really determine how close we need to pay attention to the draft. Will we be top 6 or not. Can we dangle that pick in a bigger trade? Is there a player that fits that will be in our range?
                              And that pick being there or not also impacts pretty significantly the potential cap space scenarios we can play with (same goes for room under the tax if we choose to stay above the cap). Three days until some much needed clarity.
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                              • I honestly dont really buy the "weak draft class" thing. I honestly think its media driven based on no home run number 1 prospect. They arnt the guys doing the work to drive the lansing michigan in he middle of december. Even in a normal year all we hear about is the top 2 or 3 guys. Yea it would be a bad year to be the number 1 pick, but a top 6 is still really valueable. I would give it more credence if Dan Tolzman said it. You can't convince me a whole cohort of college. G league and international player isn't going to have really good to solid NBA talent. Ill take the top 6 this year and trust Tolzman to find a great running partner for Scottie
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