Everything 2024 Draft

[Puffer]

Yup. It was unfortunate timing. Big men like Howard, Hibbert, Duncan, Randolph were all top tier big men. We asked JV to start bulking up pretty much as the league started transitioning away from physical back to the basket big men.

Am I wrong in remembering JV take a three point shot in one of his first games as a Raptor? And then Casey reminding him of what was on his "Role Card"?

[WJF]

I'm really warming up to DeRon Holmes. He can score at all three levels, solid 3 point shooter, shifty post game, has a mid range jumper, and can put it on the deck and attack closeouts. He has some solid switachability on pick and rolls as well as weakside shotblocking.

He measured out at 6' 8 3/4" flat foot with a 7'1" wing span and 236lbs, looks like he has postional versatility as well. I am convincing myself that Scottie and Holmes could work well as a forward tandem both with Jakob in a traditional lineup as well as with each other in a small ball lineup. I want to believe that he can guard 3s on defence, maybe I'm delusional.

[golden]

I'm really warming up to DeRon Holmes. He can score at all three levels, solid 3 point shooter, shifty post game, has a mid range jumper, and can put it on the deck and attack closeouts. He has some solid switachability on pick and rolls as well as weakside shotblocking.

He measured out at 6' 8 3/4" flat foot with a 7'1" wing span and 236lbs, looks like he has postional versatility as well. I am convincing myself that Scottie and Holmes could work well as a forward tandem both with Jakob in a traditional lineup as well as with each other in a small ball lineup. I want to believe that he can guard 3s on defence, maybe I'm delusional.

Here's the scouting round. There's a LOT to like there.

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/dar...couting-report

[DanH]

Yeah Holmes is solidly on my list. His defensive overlap with Scottie is kind of the one downside (not clear whether he can slide to the 3 or the 5 on that end yet).

I starting to think though that he's a candidate to move up the board and be gone by 19.

[Puffer]

Yup. It was unfortunate timing. Big men like Howard, Hibbert, Duncan, Randolph were all top tier big men. We asked JV to start bulking up pretty much as the league started transitioning away from physical back to the basket big men.

Am I wrong in remembering JV take a three point shot in one of his first games as a Raptor? And then Casey reminding him of what was on his "Role Card"?

[3inthekeon]

Yeah Holmes is solidly on my list. His defensive overlap with Scottie is kind of the one downside (not clear whether he can slide to the 3 or the 5 on that end yet).

I starting to think though that he's a candidate to move up the board and be gone by 19.

From ESPN:

"Sources told ESPN Holmes recently canceled several workouts, raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round."

Both Ringer and ESPN have him mocked 28th to the Nuggets.

[Joey]

I don’t think that’s true. I clearly remember a JV rookie interview where he was talking about putting on muscle to go up against Dwight. I think JV is the one who wanted to bulk up.

Nah fam, that was all Colangelo and Casey.

After the draft he stayed in Europe for a year, and and Brian and Case kept saying his only job in that year is to get bigger.

[MixxAOR]

maybe management made him gain weight. It was his choice to stay at that weight

[3inthekeon]

maybe management made him gain weight. It was his choice to stay at that weight

Yeah, when he was lighter he was getting bullied in the post. Only thing he could do then was foul, averaging a foul every 4 minutes.

[WJF]

Yeah Holmes is solidly on my list. His defensive overlap with Scottie is kind of the one downside (not clear whether he can slide to the 3 or the 5 on that end yet).

I starting to think though that he's a candidate to move up the board and be gone by 19.

He looks like he has the foot speed to guard 3s and and the length to guard most 5s. He measures out very similar to Bam Adebayo. Sam exact height, Bam has one more inch of reach and was a few pounds heavier.

He will need some time to get better at defensive positioning at teh NBA level, but I feel he has it in him to make it work. He's a bit of a late bloomer and has added to him game each year in college.

[Kagemusha]

i understand that me and many here dont look at the game the same. iso basketball and pull up 3’s is not basketball. the westbrook fans who love to see bam barge type basketball driving through 3 people and screaming at the ref that he got fouled. in the hood you get laughed at and mans will punk you off the court for even suggesting you want someone to respect that call. I AM TIRED OF THIS LOW IQ basketball. you guys had your era your derozans your OG’s driving on 3 mans only to get block so hard they broke his hand.

edey may not be it as i said his foot speed is concerning but i gave you 2 other options so dont cherry pick.

Hey, I don't like today's 3 and dunks basketball too.
Low post Edey in the NBA will not be as effective like he was in college, bro.
Trust me. Strong, big and crafty centers will make life very difficult for him.

[Kagemusha]

I don’t think that’s true. I clearly remember a JV rookie interview where he was talking about putting on muscle to go up against Dwight. I think JV is the one who wanted to bulk up.

Bulking up is different from muscle gain and strength too.
Compare Domantas's lean body to JV. Big difference.

[Yuri Gagarin]

Ya Id take holmes too. Well rounded game. His pump fake opens up drives and passing out. Rim protector, moves his feet, drops threes, mixes it up. Sign me up

[Yuri Gagarin]

Ya Id take holmes too. Well rounded game. His pump fake opens up drives and passing out. Rim protector, moves his feet, drops threes, mixes it up. Sign me up

Not comparing him yet but his handle and passing seems much better than OGs. Havent seen enough to comment on his defence but seems fine

[Kagemusha]

Yeah Holmes is solidly on my list. His defensive overlap with Scottie is kind of the one downside (not clear whether he can slide to the 3 or the 5 on that end yet).

I starting to think though that he's a candidate to move up the board and be gone by 19.

he moves like JV, lol
awkward