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  • Let's shift the focus a bit and talk about the Raptors team needs. This is who I think will for sure be back next season by position.

    PG: Quickley
    SG: Barrett, Dick, Agbaji
    SF:
    PF: Barnes
    C: Poeltl, Olynyk

    I'd put Nwora as a likely, so maybe slot him in at backup SF

    So we basically have no starting SF (maybe no backup also), no backup PG, and no backup PF.

    I'm a BPA guy but it doesn't seem likely a C is going to be the BPA at any of our picks, and this is a pretty bad draft for C in general. We just really don't seem like a roster than needs a project C.

    Seems like everyone in this thread should be focusing on the SF, PF, and PG that we could draft who would be realistic at each pick.

    It could be argued that all of our SG can play as an undersized SF, and I buy that, but that still leaves wing as a pretty weak spot on the roster.

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    • Current ESPN Mock for the Raptors

      6. Matas Buzelis SF
      16. Devin Carter PG/SG
      31. Ryan Dunn SF

      This does seem to fit pretty well with team needs. Buzelis could potentially start at SF, Carter is a Quickley type scoring PG, and Dunn is a 3&D project.

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      • Limited Upside wrote: View Post
        If it's Cs we're talking about, not just Edey, of course there are other options that might fit better. None of them looks, to me, anyway, like someone to bank on as a starter 2-3 years from now. They all look highly one-dimensional.

        Sarr: who knows what this guy will be, seems as likely to be a bust as anything.
        Clingan/Filipowski look like career back-ups at best.
        Missi is a freshman who can't shoot. Shot-blockers who can catch a lob pass are not that hard to find.
        Kel'el Ware they can't even say if he has a motor of any kind; sounds not great.

        And the next best rated C in most rankings is Edey.

        There's nobody in this draft that looks to project even as good as Poeltl. One of them might, but it's not worth the risk on a lotto pick or the Indiana pick, IMO.

        In short, they don't NEED a C right now, so if they take one, it's likely with the 2nd round pick, and at that point, Edey would be a fine gamble. I'd personally stick with my original choice of Coleman Hawkins at that stage, though.
        Clingan is getting lit up by Ledee. Don’t draft a C.

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        • golden wrote: View Post

          Clingan is getting lit up by Ledee. Don’t draft a C.
          Thank you.

          Don't draft a center UNLESS that C is a generational C like Shaq, Olajuwon, Robinson etc.

          Center is also the LAST thing this team need. We need a PG badly. We also need wings. We only have two quality wings and that's Scottie and RJ.
          Mamba Mentality

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          • The Great One wrote: View Post

            Thank you.

            Don't draft a center UNLESS that C is a generational C like Shaq, Olajuwon, Robinson etc.

            Center is also the LAST thing this team need. We need a PG badly. We also need wings. We only have two quality wings and that's Scottie and RJ.
            In terms of point guards I am not super high on a lot of them. Topic is interesting but i am curious about the injury..... I think his shooting translates although it didn't this year. He shoots at the rim at 70% and is a bigger guard. Passes really well too and is a good table setter. Stephen Castle is also interesting. Finally Collier although I lean against drafting anyone below 6'4. Collier meets the requirement.


            Wings I like Matas, Holland, and Ryan Dunn. Dunn should be available at the indiana pick though he is a long term project. The other two are obviously only available if we keep the pick this year.

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            • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post

              In terms of point guards I am not super high on a lot of them. Topic is interesting but i am curious about the injury..... I think his shooting translates although it didn't this year. He shoots at the rim at 70% and is a bigger guard. Passes really well too and is a good table setter. Stephen Castle is also interesting. Finally Collier although I lean against drafting anyone below 6'4. Collier meets the requirement.


              Wings I like Matas, Holland, and Ryan Dunn. Dunn should be available at the indiana pick though he is a long term project. The other two are obviously only available if we keep the pick this year.
              Castle is a winger, not a PG. He's #3 on my ranking. I like him. If he's there at #6, 100% you take him.
              Mamba Mentality

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              • chris wrote: View Post

                i mean boban has also put up 23 and 15 per 36 in 329 nba games with a career PER pf 25.2 and ORtg of 122. the problem is that teams couldn't keep him on the floor because of his immobility on defence.

                edey's college prodcution could absolutely scale up offesnively in the nba and i would expect him to be just as unplayable, or only situationally useful, as boban has been
                Dang ... come in spitting fire ... Lol for real though, that's pretty wild to actually see Bobans Per 36 ... never looked ... solid contribution chris!

                https://www.basketball-reference.com...marjabo01.html

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                • Primer wrote: View Post
                  Let's shift the focus a bit and talk about the Raptors team needs. This is who I think will for sure be back next season by position.

                  PG: Quickley
                  SG: Barrett, Dick, Agbaji
                  SF:
                  PF: Barnes
                  C: Poeltl, Olynyk

                  I'd put Nwora as a likely, so maybe slot him in at backup SF

                  So we basically have no starting SF (maybe no backup also), no backup PG, and no backup PF.

                  I'm a BPA guy but it doesn't seem likely a C is going to be the BPA at any of our picks, and this is a pretty bad draft for C in general. We just really don't seem like a roster than needs a project C.

                  Seems like everyone in this thread should be focusing on the SF, PF, and PG that we could draft who would be realistic at each pick.

                  It could be argued that all of our SG can play as an undersized SF, and I buy that, but that still leaves wing as a pretty weak spot on the roster.
                  *cough* Cody Williams *cough*

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                  • The Great One wrote: View Post

                    Castle is a winger, not a PG. He's #3 on my ranking. I like him. If he's there at #6, 100% you take him.
                    I have him as a point guard but his shot will need to come along. he can play as a wing though a tad undersized. But that is a major debate right now.

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                    • Joey wrote: View Post

                      *cough* Cody Williams *cough*
                      I dont mind him but he faded a bit during the season. I think he has a moderate ceiling and a high floor. few weaknesses but the fading is worrisome.

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                      • Joey wrote: View Post

                        Dang ... come in spitting fire ... Lol for real though, that's pretty wild to actually see Bobans Per 36 ... never looked ... solid contribution chris!

                        https://www.basketball-reference.com...marjabo01.html
                        Do you still want a Boban for your Raptors, mod?

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                        • That one scout who hates him doesn't represent every team. Here's a more balanced take:

                          "He will be a polarizing prospect in this draft," said one Eastern Conference executive. "Teams that like him will point to his massive size and ability to score effectively in the lane and consider him as a mid-to-late first-round pick. Teams that don't like him will point to his vulnerability as a defender and lack of passing and face-up game and consider him in the 30 to 45-pick range as a functional backup."
                          If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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                          • Kagemusha wrote: View Post

                            Do you still want a Boban for your Raptors, mod?
                            I never wanted a Boban, and still think Edey is better than Boban ever was. So yes, I still wouldn't mind an Edey with our 2nd rounder though, ya.

                            And that's "Commissioner" to you, Kage. Get it right.

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                            • Joey wrote: View Post

                              I never wanted a Boban, and still think Edey is better than Boban ever was. So yes, I still wouldn't mind an Edey with our 2nd rounder though, ya.

                              And that's "Commissioner" to you, Kage. Get it right.
                              I agree with you. He is better than Boban. BUT in today's NBA you just have some concerns. I think there are other 7 footers in this draft that I would take before taking him.

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                              • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post

                                I agree with you. He is better than Boban. BUT in today's NBA you just have some concerns. I think there are other 7 footers in this draft that I would take before taking him.
                                If he can't play defense and can't keep up in transition he won't be playable, just like Boban. A lot of his offense is predicated on getting calls also, which works great for him in college but won't work at all in the NBA. I think despite being better than Boban it won't matter because the same huge deficiencies will be there. The only way I see Edey being playable for long stretches is if they build a team around him.

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