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  • planetmars wrote: View Post

    I think he goes to the Knicks. They have two picks.. their own and Dallas'. So right now #21 and #24. I think he goes to #21.
    Scratch planetmars off the gutless list. (Sidenote: you weren't on that list because you're not one the hyperbolic naysayers).
    If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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    • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post

      Scratch planetmars off the gutless list. (Sidenote: you weren't on that list because you're not one the hyperbolic naysayers).
      I'll go with Wizards at 26 and if not them Spurs at 33. I think Wemby could cover for a lot of Edeys defensive deficiency.

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      • Primer wrote: View Post

        I'll go with Wizards at 26 and if not them Spurs at 33. I think Wemby could cover for a lot of Edeys defensive deficiency.
        The list is getting shorter.
        If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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        • The thread is worth a watch.

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          • Edey makes sense as a value pick for inefficient scoring teams that need an ORTG boost and who have a pick in the late 1st round or early 2nd round: Wizards (26), Spurs (33), Hornets (34), Blazers (35), Grizzlies (37). The other options are true contenders looking for a low-minute backup C: Sixers (15), Heat (16), Nuggets (28), Celtics (30). It would be a ballsy pick for Heat & Sixers, though.

            So, I've got Edey going anywhere from 15-37.

            edit: Blazers also have #13, so that's a possibility.
            Last edited by golden; Mon Apr 1, 2024, 02:34 PM.

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            • OKC need a C. I could see OKC taking a chance at Edey at #12(unless Clingan is still on the board). So I'll go with OKC at #12.


              Mamba Mentality

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              • The Great One wrote: View Post
                OKC need a C. I could see OKC taking a chance at Edey at #12(unless Clingan is still on the board). So I'll go with OKC at #12.

                Oh, yeah Clingan is now up to #3 on Givony's mock . A few snippets :

                Clingan played the best game of his career in arguably the most impressive two-way performance of any player in college basketball this season, helping UConn advance to the Final Four in a 25-point blowout win over Illinois.

                Illinois shot 3-for-25 from inside the arc (12%) in Clingan's 22 minutes on the floor, going 0-for-19 when challenging him directly, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. He blocked close to half of those attempts (despite only being officially credited with five) while altering many others with his 7-foot-7 wingspan and incredible timing as a rim protector.

                Clingan did more than just park under the basket challenging shots while also doing an outstanding job of hedging screens out to the 3-point line and forcing opponents to shoot over length. He switched onto Illini standout Terrence Shannon Jr. and met him at the rim on one memorable play, showing excellent mobility in small spaces on the perimeter all game long. Clingan had several outstanding moments flipping his hips and getting back to protect the basket with multiple effort plays while being quicker off his feet than expected contesting shots with both hands and almost always keeping the ball in bounds to preserve possession.

                His timing rotating out of drops has become nearly impeccable as his college career has progressed, and the idea of simply putting him in space and forcing him to slide his feet has become a much less attractive proposition, which bodes well for his transition to the NBA.

                In a draft lacking in star power at the top, Clingan looks as close to a surefire bet to be a highly productive starter and a major impact performer as you'll find.
                If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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                • With our first this year(17), I'm leaning more towards Devin Carter. But if they decided to draft a wing or a big then I'd like to see them target someone like Kolek or Simpson in the 2nd round.

                  Bottomline - we gotta find a QUALITY point guard in this year's draft.
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                  • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post

                    Oh, yeah Clingan is now up to #3 on Givony's mock . A few snippets :

                    Clingan played the best game of his career in arguably the most impressive two-way performance of any player in college basketball this season, helping UConn advance to the Final Four in a 25-point blowout win over Illinois.

                    Illinois shot 3-for-25 from inside the arc (12%) in Clingan's 22 minutes on the floor, going 0-for-19 when challenging him directly, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. He blocked close to half of those attempts (despite only being officially credited with five) while altering many others with his 7-foot-7 wingspan and incredible timing as a rim protector.

                    Clingan did more than just park under the basket challenging shots while also doing an outstanding job of hedging screens out to the 3-point line and forcing opponents to shoot over length. He switched onto Illini standout Terrence Shannon Jr. and met him at the rim on one memorable play, showing excellent mobility in small spaces on the perimeter all game long. Clingan had several outstanding moments flipping his hips and getting back to protect the basket with multiple effort plays while being quicker off his feet than expected contesting shots with both hands and almost always keeping the ball in bounds to preserve possession.

                    His timing rotating out of drops has become nearly impeccable as his college career has progressed, and the idea of simply putting him in space and forcing him to slide his feet has become a much less attractive proposition, which bodes well for his transition to the NBA.

                    In a draft lacking in star power at the top, Clingan looks as close to a surefire bet to be a highly productive starter and a major impact performer as you'll find.
                    I saw this tweet the other day:



                    He's likely the best defensive center in the draft. I think that's valuable. Now Kessler went in the 20's in another weak draft (that was the year we took Koloko). But I think Clingan goes in the lottery. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get invited to the green room.

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                    • planetmars wrote: View Post

                      I saw this tweet the other day:



                      He's likely the best defensive center in the draft. I think that's valuable. Now Kessler went in the 20's in another weak draft (that was the year we took Koloko). But I think Clingan goes in the lottery. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get invited to the green room.
                      He could even go 1st. I'd take him over Sarr.

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                      • Primer wrote: View Post

                        He could even go 1st. I'd take him over Sarr.
                        I'd personally take 10 guys over Sarr. I am not a fan of his.

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                        • The Great One wrote: View Post
                          OKC need a C. I could see OKC taking a chance at Edey at #12(unless Clingan is still on the board). So I'll go with OKC at #12.

                          OKC tends to draft pretty well so I'd be surprised if they took Edey, especially at 12. Definitely better centers will be available then if they want to go C.

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                          • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
                            FWIW, I'm not saying the Raptors should take Edey. My point is that some team will take Edey a lot sooner than the naysayers think. I predicted he'd go 20th. That will be proven right or wrong in only a few months. I'd like to hear anyone else make their prediction on his draft position.
                            somewhere between 15-35

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                            • planetmars wrote: View Post

                              If we get all three picks I think it could end up being a lot like 2016. In 2016 we took Jak as the "safe" pick at 9. But that was where he pretty much was ranked in most mocks that year. We then took Pascal at 27 which felt like a reach. Ultimately took Fred off the UDFA market. Remember we still had JV in his prime.. yet still took Jak in the lottery. Most fans wanted us to get more of a project like Skal. I don't think Masai will gamble on that top 6 pick even if it means taking a senior (and I acknowledge that Jak was only 21 and a sophomore when drafted).

                              Scottie was a "reach" but he was still mocked around 7-8. We just took him at 4. Not a huge reach.

                              I think we could use the top 6 pick to go safer.. like a Sheppard/Knecht type of player. And reach a bit with the Pacers pick and get a guy that might have a higher ceiling but isn't in our mock range (maybe like Edey but I hope not). Then at 31 look to get someone that might be trying to bet on himself a little bit. Or just get whoever they feel is a Raptory type of player that's still there after the first round.
                              I didn't think Barnes was a reach.


                              But I think there are safer picks than Knecht in my opinion. Cody Williams, Sheppard, Matas if he is there, Sheppard if he remains in the draft is a maybe... I do not see Edey as a safe pick. I dont think he has a super high ceiling either other than the fact that he is just ... big. Kel el ware would be a higher ceiling.. .even the french kid Tidjane .

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                              • TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post

                                I didn't think Barnes was a reach.


                                But I think there are safer picks than Knecht in my opinion. Cody Williams, Sheppard, Matas if he is there, Sheppard if he remains in the draft is a maybe... I do not see Edey as a safe pick. I dont think he has a super high ceiling either other than the fact that he is just ... big. Kel el ware would be a higher ceiling.. .even the french kid Tidjane .
                                I think there will potentially be about 10 different guys you can label safe for a top 6 pick (likely top 4 if we keep it). But since he's been a Raptor, Masai has only ever drafted from the NCAA except for Bruno and he didn't last long in the organization. So Buzelis would actually be a bit of a reach for him if we go by history. As would that French kid. Or either Risacher, Starr or Topic.

                                I don't think Edey is a safe pick at all. Hence why he might be considered for that Pacers pick. You have scouts saying he's the next Boban. You don't draft a Boban in the first round. He only plays like 5-7 minutes a game, maybe 20 times a year. But that risk might be worth it for them if they get a safer guy in the top 6. Basically they can afford to "waste" a pick by going big on one selection.

                                And yet, I still hope they pass on Edey. I'm just saying there is a chance he could be the guy they take with that pick.

                                But not to get too lost in the weeds here.. my initial point was that despite Knecht being a senior and looking like a potential role player in the NBA that if they get a top 4 pick and they feel like he's their BPA.. I think they could certainly take him.

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