Everything 2024 Draft

[3inthekeon]

The whole class is weak, not just the top, top to bottom. Once again sticking your head in the sand and pretending this draft is just as good as any other. That's fine, we gotta cope with the fact we have lots of picks this year and admitting its a bad draft makes that a tough pill to swallow.

I'll be disappointed if we don't get a top 6 pick this year, but not that disappointed because I'd love to have a pick next year.

Givony:

The lack of talent in the 2024 draft is no longer a controversial opinion to have among NBA executives, where it is a frequent topic.

Some have taken that several steps further, universally panning the 2024 draft as a bad class -- not just at the top -- but as a whole for the entire first and second rounds. However, that does not appear to be accurate based on what we've seen thus far and what is certain to come between now and June.

I would argue that this is shaping up to be a relatively deep draft, not that different from years prior in terms of the number of players likely to have productive NBA careers.

[planetmars]

2024 Draft Preview - Dean’s Substack

this is the guy who was really high on Barnes before the draft

I love this guy! I thought he got snatched by an NBA team. This is awesome, thanks!

Oh this was done in July of last year. And he hasn't updated his blog since January of this year. I hope he keeps posting but since he's been quiet through the tourney I suspect he's not doing this publicly anymore.

[planetmars]

Givony:

The lack of talent in the 2024 draft is no longer a controversial opinion to have among NBA executives, where it is a frequent topic.

Some have taken that several steps further, universally panning the 2024 draft as a bad class -- not just at the top -- but as a whole for the entire first and second rounds. However, that does not appear to be accurate based on what we've seen thus far and what is certain to come between now and June.

I would argue that this is shaping up to be a relatively deep draft, not that different from years prior in terms of the number of players likely to have productive NBA careers.

Primer will still dig his heels in though.

[Primer]

I sure hope you're not sticking by a single anonymous quote. Because if you are that's super funny. I've actually watched some videos and seen the profiles.. and I've been doing that for years now. So I can do the comparison myself. Is this weaker than 2020? That was a really hard year to judge because of covid. But we can see all these guys play right now.

What makes it weak is that there are no sure fire #1 players. It's an interesting draft because guys are mocked all over and those mocks change constantly. But it's not really weak. Just different. And no I'm not just saying that because we have multiple picks. I'm saying that because I'm doing my homework.

There are at least 10-12 guys that I like and I have even done a deep, deep dive which I will do in May/June when we have an idea as to where we pick. There are some really good big men. Guys that can shoot. Some really good defenders. Good point guards. It's lacking in wings. And there are no big stars potentially. But the class is pretty deep. Teams in the playoffs will likely get a good player out of this draft as guys slip and fall.

It's not a single anonymous quote. It's is the unanimous consensus among everyone who gets paid to publish opinions on the NBA draft. This has been known for a long time, not some recent development. Analysts look years out.

[planetmars]

It's not a single anonymous quote. It's is the unanimous consensus among everyone who gets paid to publish opinions on the NBA draft. This has been known for a long time, not some recent development. Analysts look years out.

Except for Givony. Read the post above yours.

[Primer]

Except for Givony. Read the post above yours.

He's changing his tune, that helps with the cope for sure. He also noted how it's universally seen as bad by everyone but him. He also thinks Edey is a lotto pick so maybe his analysis is off this year. He got absolutely roasted in the comments on Twitter when he said that.

[Kagemusha]

I love this guy! I thought he got snatched by an NBA team. This is awesome, thanks!

Oh this was done in July of last year. And he hasn't updated his blog since January of this year. I hope he keeps posting but since he's been quiet through the tourney I suspect he's not doing this publicly anymore.

First time to see that Mara kid.
He can be something.

[3inthekeon]

It's not a single anonymous quote. It's is the unanimous consensus among everyone who gets paid to publish opinions on the NBA draft. This has been known for a long time, not some recent development. Analysts look years out.

Could you post any of these opinions? Simply saying "weakest draft" is meaningless without context.

[Primer]

Could you post any of these opinions? Simply saying "weakest draft" is meaningless without context.

See Givony quote above.

[3inthekeon]

See Givony quote above.

Givony is saying yes, the top of the draft is weak - no argument there, but some are claiming it to mean the entire draft is weak, and that does not seem to be accurate.

[Primer]

Givony is saying yes, the top of the draft is weak - no argument there, but some are claiming it to mean the entire draft is weak, and that does not seem to be accurate.

Says it right here, quote from Givony.

"The lack of talent in the 2024 draft is no longer a controversial opinion to have among NBA executives, where it is a frequent topic.
Some have taken that several steps further, universally panning the 2024 draft as a bad class -- not just at the top -- but as a whole for the entire first and second rounds."

[3inthekeon]

Says it right here, quote from Givony.

"The lack of talent in the 2024 draft is no longer a controversial opinion to have among NBA executives, where it is a frequent topic.
Some have taken that several steps further, universally panning the 2024 draft as a bad class -- not just at the top -- but as a whole for the entire first and second rounds."

And then he says they are wrong.

[chris]

Great article on young Boban (2018) and why he can't get more minutes, despite being the most efficient scorer in the NBA. Sounds a lot like the Edey draft discussions, that are hot & heavy right now.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-on-the-bench/

i said exactly this last week while making the same point about edey and you were pretty dismissive about it. edey can be awesome offensively but the league needs to change a ton for him to be anything but a situational player. and i've been saying it since summer time when the national team bled points whenever he saw the floor

[Primer]

And then he says they are wrong.

Yeah, he does disagree now. Doesn't change the fact most NBA execs view this as a terrible draft. Givony seems to be the lone voice that now likes the draft. He also thinks Edey is a lotto pick, which gives you an idea of where his head is at.

[G______Deane]

Masai and his scouts needs prove themselves magicians and somehow win this draft.

All Toronto teams lost last night but this Raptor beatdown was historically horrawful. I'm sure players around the league have at least a peripheral understanding of how short the roster is here currently but why the h*ll would you want to come here as a FA at all? I'm sure a lot of them don't know the details (maybe thye know Scotty is out) but see the losing streak and standings.

15 losses in a row, why does it have to be Toronto that's this bad?