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  • #16
    i could see them trying to replace amir with manimal

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    • #17
      Going to attempt to read Masai's mind:

      1) Casey will be back to the chagrin of most Raptor fans

      2) Steamer, Lou, Fields will be gone.

      4) Amir, Hans and Hayes will be back. Hans will get a 1+1 deal for like $3M/yr. Amir will get a 1+1 deal for like $10M/yr. Hayes will get the vet minimum.

      5) Masai gets another pick (trades JJ for a draft pick) and drafts Harrell and Lucas.

      6) In free agency Masai goes after guys like Koufos or Wright (at center) and Dunleavy or Mbah a Moute (at wing). Possibly even Deng for some vet leadership.

      The roster would like like this:

      Lowry/GV/Lucas
      DD/GV
      Ross/Dunleavy/(Deng)/Bruno
      Amir/Hans/Harrell
      JV/Koufous/Hayes/Bebe

      * one of Lucas/Harrell/Daniels will not be on the opening day roster.

      ... not great. But should make the playoffs again. Team is leaning towards 2016 to make a splash. A trade deadline move may be made to get another vet depending on playoff positioning.

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      • #18
        Heir, Prince of Cambridge

        If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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        • #19
          If Jason Thompson and Nik Stauskas is all you can get for Kyle Lowry, then you aren't going to trade Kyle Lowry. That's maybe 60 cents on the dollar.
          That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.

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          • #20
            Other Scott wrote: View Post
            If Jason Thompson and Nik Stauskas is all you can get for Kyle Lowry, then you aren't going to trade Kyle Lowry. That's maybe 60 cents on the dollar.
            Price is determined by the market. Not a lot of demand for PGs in the league. Supply is high, price is low. Adding a SG who can shoot coming off a rookie season isn't pennies either.

            Edit Add: Would you have traded Lowry for a Top 10 pick in 2014 draft?
            Last edited by Axel; Wed Apr 29th, 2015, 11:20 AM.
            Heir, Prince of Cambridge

            If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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            • #21
              And my point is that if that's the market, you are better off not trading him.

              I don't know whether I would have traded Lowry for a top 10 draft pick last year, but Stauskas stock has fallen a bit since then too based on a pretty rocky year last year.
              That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.

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              • #22
                Other Scott wrote: View Post
                And my point is that if that's the market, you are better off not trading him.

                I don't know whether I would have traded Lowry for a top 10 draft pick last year, but Stauskas stock has fallen a bit since then too based on a pretty rocky year last year.
                Well feel free to make your own predictions

                Personally, I think Lowry is gone. He has a rep as a coach killer and was traded for a late lotto pick. In the last 3 years, has he done anything to change that perception? I'd have to say no based on the exit interviews. His performance peaked really high, but also hit some bad lows. Add in the age factor, and I simply don't think many teams want him, Toronto included.

                You have to ask yourself, is this the guy (who may have lead a swag crew mutiny over a hapless Casey) you want around while you develop Bruno, Bebe, Daniels, JV, Lucas, Wright, etc?
                Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                • #23
                  Axel wrote: View Post
                  Price is determined by the market. Not a lot of demand for PGs in the league. Supply is high, price is low. Adding a SG who can shoot coming off a rookie season isn't pennies either.

                  Edit Add: Would you have traded Lowry for a Top 10 pick in 2014 draft?
                  Were talking about the same man who got a 1st for Bargnani and Salmons for Lou, Bebe

                  He's gonna get more than Stauskas and a bust for Lowry.
                  "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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                  • #24
                    MACK11 wrote: View Post
                    Were talking about the same man who got a 1st for Bargnani and Salmons for Lou, Bebe

                    He's gonna get more than Stauskas and a bust for Lowry.
                    True, but Dolan wont return Masai's calls anymore.

                    The Salmons deal was a very unique circumstance, and as much as we feel we got a steal of a deal, don't think Atlanta is too bummed out by the deal right now.

                    Just don't see the market developing and I think Lowry needs to go. Adding a Canadian is something that Masai has said he wants to do, Stauskas has good size/shooting on the wing and is just entering his 2nd season. Thompson helps with our rebounding in the short term, while we aim for a new PF in 2016.
                    Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                    If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                    • #25
                      Axel wrote: View Post
                      True, but Dolan wont return Masai's calls anymore.

                      The Salmons deal was a very unique circumstance, and as much as we feel we got a steal of a deal, don't think Atlanta is too bummed out by the deal right now.

                      Just don't see the market developing and I think Lowry needs to go. Adding a Canadian is something that Masai has said he wants to do, Stauskas has good size/shooting on the wing and is just entering his 2nd season. Thompson helps with our rebounding in the short term, while we aim for a new PF in 2016.
                      You do realize just how bad this team will be if we trade Lowry for a Rookie and Jason Thompson?
                      "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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                      • #26
                        MACK11 wrote: View Post
                        You do realize just how bad this team will be if we trade Lowry for a Rookie and Jason Thompson?
                        You do realize how bad this team was from Jan on?
                        Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                        If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                        • #27
                          Axel wrote: View Post
                          You do realize how bad this team was from Jan on?
                          They've been terrible all year. They were just winning games by blowing out teams benches early in the year.

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                          • #28
                            Axel wrote: View Post
                            You do realize how bad this team was from Jan on?
                            Yeah, and that's how the team will be without Lowry
                            "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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                            • #29
                              MACK11 wrote: View Post
                              Yeah, and that's how the team will be without Lowry
                              Not sure I agree with that. With a real Coach, plus the other roster changes I predicted, things will be different.

                              Look, I'm not trying to predict a perfect off-season. If I did, we would have landed Vonleh from Charlotte and a lotto pick to boot, just don't see it all happening. I'm trying to predict some realistic events and my gut says DD stays (although I would love to ship him to Charlotte for the above) but KL goes.
                              Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                              If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                              • #30
                                Axel wrote: View Post
                                Not sure I agree with that. With a real Coach, plus the other roster changes I predicted, things will be different.

                                Look, I'm not trying to predict a perfect off-season. If I did, we would have landed Vonleh from Charlotte and a lotto pick to boot, just don't see it all happening. I'm trying to predict some realistic events and my gut says DD stays (although I would love to ship him to Charlotte for the above) but KL goes.
                                Oh my bad I thought we were keeping Casey lol

                                If there's a new coach than anything is possible.
                                "Both teams played hard my man" - Sheed

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