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Axel wrote: View PostBarnes. Better shooter, better defender & younger (plus probably cheaper)."My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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At this point Barnes has lots to prove to earn the money he'll be seeking and it may take even more than what DD will accept considering he's an RFA and you'd want GSW to not match. Personally at this point I don't think Barnes moves the dial much.
I'd still go after a cheap replacement for DD like Gerald Green and then go for broke in 2017.
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planetmars wrote: View PostAt this point Barnes has lots to prove to earn the money he'll be seeking and it may take even more than what DD will accept considering he's an RFA and you'd want GSW to not match. Personally at this point I don't think Barnes moves the dial much.
I'd still go after a cheap replacement for DD like Gerald Green and then go for broke in 2017.
Obviously he has to play well this year (his totals wont jump off the page in his current role but his defence and efficiency is something that will translate). He was great in the playoffs last year.
Gerald Green does not scream "Masai signing" - even on the cheap. Would rather Gerald Henderson than Green.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Axel wrote: View PostGood thing he has 81 games + playoffs
Obviously he has to play well this year (his totals wont jump off the page in his current role but his defence and efficiency is something that will translate). He was great in the playoffs last year.
Gerald Green does not scream "Masai signing" - even on the cheap. Would rather Gerald Henderson than Green.
I wonder if he has that Harden leap in him.. good player on great team. Gets moved and becomes top 5 player in league.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI wonder if he has that Harden leap in him.. good player on great team. Gets moved and becomes top 5 player in league.
If he makes that Harden leap, or even shows flashes, I would pay him a lot of money, and eventually GSW has to make tough decisions.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Honestly, the possibility of adding Barnes would also leave the door open to possibly sign pau gasol or terrence jones or ryan anderson or one of those :teir 2" bigmen after horford with the same amount of money(or a bit less) than it would take to get Durant.
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We could have:
Lowry/Joseph/Wright
Carroll/Powell
Barnes/Ross/Bruno
Jones/Draft
JV/Bebe/Biyombo
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Snooch wrote: View PostNo big deal, GS is spending ALot on salaries and will likely be handcuffed if they look to match.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Snooch wrote: View PostHonestly, the possibility of adding Barnes would also leave the door open to possibly sign pau gasol or terrence jones or ryan anderson or one of those :teir 2" bigmen after horford with the same amount of money(or a bit less) than it would take to get Durant.
IE:
We could have:
Lowry/Joseph/Wright
Carroll/Powell
Barnes/Ross/Bruno
Jones/Draft
JV/Bebe/Biyombo
Even if Barnes take $18M a year.. that's still only $7M and that's not including Ross.
*Edit: Unless we trade for Barnes mid season. His cap hold is only $5M.Last edited by planetmars; Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:54 PM.
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planetmars wrote: View PostBarnes would be worth about $20M/yr. Not going to have enough to go after someone like Gasol or Jones without making additional moves. Losing DD, Ross, JJ, Biyombo and Scola we would have enough for $25M.
Even if Barnes take $18M a year.. that's still only $7M and that's not including Ross.
*Edit: Unless we trade for Barnes mid season. His cap hold is only $5M.
I can see Jones jumping all over an offer of 1.7 million to start with big bonuses built into it.
He has had alot of injuries and if we plan on swooping in whil everyone else fights over KD and Horford he might just jump all over it.
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planetmars wrote: View PostWonder if GSW would be willing to trade Barnes for Ross and a first round pick (Toronto's 2016 pick)?
Love that his cap hold is low.
Might take more than just our pick though....it would be Ross and NYKs pick for Barnes...imo...
But with his caphold we could chase after Horford if we still cut alot of salary and sign barnes afterwards.
Lowry
Carroll
Barnes
Horford
JV
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