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  • Chr1s1anL
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    magoon wrote: View Post
    It's a realistic response to the issue that we have trouble attracting top tier free agents. If you have no real opportunity to get a star player via free agency (and, honestly: we don't, not right now), then you're going to emphasize one of the other routes. Tankers favor the draft. People like tenforthewin imagine impossible trades. And people who fancy themselves "realistic" bank on internal development and polishing rough stones into diamonds.

    None of them is easier than any of the others. But internal development is the easiest to understand and the method that's hardest to simply dismiss, so a certain type of fan pushes it to the forefront of any advance-to-contention strategy.
    Well said.

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  • magoon
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    I swear it is Raptor Republics goal to make that championships by recycling bottom end talent while magically wishing that our upper echelon talent isn't all that good (mainly a jab at all you DD lovers, he isn't good).
    It's a realistic response to the issue that we have trouble attracting top tier free agents. If you have no real opportunity to get a star player via free agency (and, honestly: we don't, not right now), then you're going to emphasize one of the other routes. Tankers favor the draft. People like tenforthewin imagine impossible trades. And people who fancy themselves "realistic" bank on internal development and polishing rough stones into diamonds.

    None of them is easier than any of the others. But internal development is the easiest to understand and the method that's hardest to simply dismiss, so a certain type of fan pushes it to the forefront of any advance-to-contention strategy.

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  • McRealistic
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    I swear it is Raptor Republics goal to make that championships by recycling bottom end talent while magically wishing that our upper echelon talent isn't all that good (mainly a jab at all you DD lovers, he isn't good)

    Biyombo = no worse or better than what we currently have.
    Nicely said. I think more of RR are Winners shopper, going through the sale racks hoping for a good item !!!

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  • Pong
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    Er all I'm saying is I don't have the per36 stats the op has laid down but based on what I've read while following fantasy ball all year, bb seems foul prone. I mean I'm sure most people here get there info strictly from what they read or watch in games so I don't see how following player news from fantasy ball to be any less credible. Maybe I should have phrased it better but I was busy looking at the crazy train map in tokyo.

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  • Axel
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Raptors didn't draft him, if he was trash they shouldn't have carried him all season.
    They shouldn't have unless Casey wanted a vet big off the bench to play. But he didn't; he had Hayes for that role, making Stiemsma completely irrelevant.

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  • Axel
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    Pong wrote: View Post
    The rebounding numbers look good but what about foul rate? From my time with fantasy ball, I think he's one of those guys that can't stay on the court due to fouls. He's also a terrible free throw shooter and has no range.

    TT on the other hand is quite good offensively. And he's quick around and under the basket with his post moves
    Probably not a good disclaimer if you want people to take your opinions seriously. You point is fine, but you should probably leave the "fantasy ball experience" off your resume.

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  • Pong
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    The rebounding numbers look good but what about foul rate? From my time with fantasy ball, I think he's one of those guys that can't stay on the court due to fouls. He's also a terrible free throw shooter and has no range.

    TT on the other hand is quite good offensively. And he's quick around and under the basket with his post moves

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    I swear it is Raptor Republics goal to make that championships by recycling bottom end talent while magically wishing that our upper echelon talent isn't all that good (mainly a jab at all you DD lovers, he isn't good)

    Biyombo = no worse or better than what we currently have.

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  • Chr1s1anL
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    Bench or starter. BB brings a lot to the table that this team lacks.

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  • DanH
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    Stiemsma, funnily enough, is basically Biyombo. He's a shot blocking big who puts up very good defensive impact numbers, and gets moderate minutes, and puts up such terrible offensive impact numbers that they complete negate his defensive impact and then some. Neither should be a solution to anything, except maybe if the question is who you want as a backup C if the rest of your bench is all offensive minded players.

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  • raptors999
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    Axel wrote: View Post
    I think the answer is quite simple. Stiemsma isn't that good of a player. Even when he was averaging 18 mpg with New Orleans, he still only managed a line of 2.9 PPG and 4.1 RPG.
    Raptors didn't draft him, if he was trash they shouldn't have carried him all season.

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  • JimiCliff
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    Axel wrote: View Post
    I think the answer is quite simple. Stiemsma isn't that good of a player. Even when he was averaging 18 mpg with New Orleans, he still only managed a line of 2.9 PPG and 4.1 RPG.
    No one's saying he's Bill Russell or anything, but I found it interesting that in three straight years, three different teams felt he was good enough to play significant minutes - to the tune of about 15 per game. And here, he got basically zilch, on a team without a true backup centre. Doesn't make much sense to me. But of course, I'm not employed by the NBA, so I should just keep it to myself.

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  • Chr1s1anL
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    Mack North wrote: View Post
    All this talk of re-treads and bench players is hurting my head. With this being year 3 of Masai's tenure, and if he's sticking with the same coach, it's time for some name players to start checking into town and not for 1 night visitor trips. If they sign a guy like Biyombo, it'll probably signify a full re-build, possibly to cater to Casey's needs as a coach. But at the same time, we know Casey doesn't like to play "inexperienced" players, so what would this guy even bring to the team? Well... maybe 4th Q mins to JV which could be a bonus. Basically, we already have Bebe as a project, so I don't see much of a need for for this player unless we are going full re-build... which I don't think is possible if Casey is staying.

    I really hope Masai has a true plan in place and can execute better signings/trades than for guys like Bizmarkie or Special ED or some other scrubs names being bandied about.
    You make a good point. I think Masai big plans our for the summer of 2016. I think Masai will address needs like he did last summer. Low risk high reward type player(Lou Will/JJ). When your needs are defence/rebounding I don't think it get any better than BB. Especially in the low risk high reward scenario.

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  • Axel
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    caccia wrote: View Post
    I always thought it was plain weird that Stiemsma never got to play, ever, except when the game was already decided. I mean, even if he was only so-so in practice, some guys actually elevate their play in games, where there is something at stake. In any case, there is little point in bringing anyone to Toronto if the head coach will not let him see the floor. It's possible that Stiemsma was helping coach Lucas Nogueira, but I never read anything to that effect.
    I think the answer is quite simple. Stiemsma isn't that good of a player. Even when he was averaging 18 mpg with New Orleans, he still only managed a line of 2.9 PPG and 4.1 RPG.

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  • caccia
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    As long as we're on the subject of centres, I would like to see Chuck Hayes return to Toronto as a player-assistant coach, if such a thing were possible, or even just as an assistant coach. He will be 32 next month, not old for a centre, but you may as well give him a shot.

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