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  • Hotshot
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    Its amazing what words of a football coach almost 10 years ago can be summed up perfectly to this team performance against the Bulls as opposed to Jay Triano who sugercoat everything to ad nauseum.

    Here is the honest truth about the Raptors game:



    Don't hold back Mora please tell us how the Raptors did in the second half?!

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  • bdl244
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    A coach that does not hold his players accountable for his performance is a coach that has lost his players. Sure you need to give them the opportunity to play, but you also need to be responsible for calling them out when they fail to produce. How many times has Triano said "played hard/good effort" in these blowouts? Its mind boggling how he's still coaching.

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  • Hellgate
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    Kennay wrote: View Post
    19 boards is beastly
    9 assists is nice
    6 points not so good
    not so good at all
    i'd trade those 19 boards for 19 points any time of the day
    sorry this is not a huge turnaround
    I completely agree Turk may have had a good night on the boards, but as like every game he's played this season. His horrible man defence, bad shot selection, and complete lack of understanding team defence. Cost us big time. Not once or twice a game , but every single time someone on the other team drives to the bucket Hedo believes by leaving the their best shooter on the perimiter while he helps the already two or three Raptor defenders in the paint, by running toward the ball carrier and stopping about half way allowing the guy to blow right by or kick it to Hedo's open man. Resulting in three pointer after three pointer. Also if he does decide to challange the short lay up attempt he's so soft with his hands that the play will almost always result in an and 1.
    I know Hedo's not the only one. Jose does the same thing except he will allow his man to beat him off the dribble, fly right by and expect that the post players will stop him. Well as you may notice our interior D is really really bad. And all of this could be have been rectified if Triano could have prepaired his team to deal with these in inefficiencies.
    During training camp the main objective of the team was to play solid D, they worked on D the most out of all training camp there goal was to become one of the best defensive teams in the league. LOL LOL They're being pegged as one of the worst in history.
    Now does this problem mostly fall on the coaches for not prepairing the team better or is it the players for not caring about hustling to carry out the defencive schemes?
    Last edited by Hellgate; Mon Apr 12, 2010, 11:11 AM.

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  • verbatim
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    I've said this before tough in another thread. It isn't really a problem of "effort." It is a problem of team suckage. The Raptors try a million different things to slow down an opponent, but they do them all 'suckily.' How can you give effort when you don;t know if you are hedging, switiching, fighting or ducking under? This combination of players and coaching staff just have no rhythm together.

    The whole team rarely ever seems on the same page defensively. I'd like to put it squarely on Triano's shoulders, but Iavaroni needs to take the blame too. The Raptors think way too much on defence...they over think it, because they have no idea what is going on.

    When that happens, "effort" translates into fouls. You try to keep your man in front of you - if you don't know what your teammates are doing, you end up having to give a foul. No one knows what they hell they are doing on defence. No defensive instincts have been cultivated on this team. It is at the point where you can put five individually good defenders on the floor, and still fuck up the defence. That is how bad it is.

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  • Bendit
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    That has been sort of a pat response from JT thruout the year.

    What really gets to me is that when he says something like this there is not one scribe in attendance who challenges him. DAntoni in NY with a crappier team has been called out on his coaching and statements by beat reporters.

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  • Kennay
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    JYFelony wrote: View Post
    He must have been watching Turk, and only Turk.

    Side note, I said that Turk cannot make a huge turnaround just out of nowhere. After tonight's performance, he has officially made me look stupid. Wish he started doing that 10-15 games ago.
    19 boards is beastly
    9 assists is nice
    6 points not so good
    not so good at all
    i'd trade those 19 boards for 19 points any time of the day
    sorry this is not a huge turnaround

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  • stuttgart1
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    That man, the one with the clipboard, he looks so lost

    Jay must be in total denial. Sometimes when listing to him talk I feel like someone from the front office is talking to the media and not the actual coach of the team. Such a "yes man" it makes me sick.

    You can't expect your team to play hard and compete when they look back and see their coach with his tail tucked between his legs.

    Long rebuilding process and it starts with the guy holding the clipboard and then we can see where we can go from there.

    At least we get to keep our pick.

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  • JYFelony
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    He must have been watching Turk, and only Turk.

    Side note, I said that Turk cannot make a huge turnaround just out of nowhere. After tonight's performance, he has officially made me look stupid. Wish he started doing that 10-15 games ago.

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  • Triano: "I thought our effort was good, I thought we played hard."

    Link:

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/201...NOPOST-1287600

    Is he serious when he says this or is he lying to himself? Sorta like being in denial.

    It was obvious that the defensive effort was lacking. I think he's just saying this to make it look like he still gets this team to play hard when that has actually happened about 25% of the time this year. If this constitutes a good effort, then we're in a very sad state. It also means that he doesn't convey to his players that they need to increase their defensive effort. Bargnani, Calderon and Belinelli were our three worst defenders on the night and Triano doesn't have a problem with that?!

    We got blown out in a must-win game at home. Note, we didn't just lose, we got blown out. This wasn't even close.
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