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Jangles wrote: View PostLet's say we drafted KD, RW, Ibaka and Harden from 2007-2011, would your statement still hold truth? I would think FAs would be taking discounts to play with these guys, regardless if it's in Toronto, Miami, Charlotte, etc.
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Nothing to do but give him time. I have some thoughts on what I'd like to see but my opinion doesn't matter at all at the end of the day. I'll remain a fan regardless of what we do, but there is one method that I simply personally prefer. No big deal.
The above is a very rare case, but imagine just getting one of those 4 guys. That 1 guy alone is a franchise centrepiece that could attract other FAs. Add our component GM and Toronto isn't seen as the North Pole anymore.
I have only been following the raps for a few years now (seriously following) so I can't truly relate to 20 years of disappointment and embarrassment.
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Jangles wrote: View PostNothing to do but give him time. I have some thoughts on what I'd like to see but my opinion doesn't matter at all at the end of the day. I'll remain a fan regardless of what we do, but there is one method that I simply personally prefer. No big deal.
The above is a very rare case, but imagine just getting one of those 4 guys. That 1 guy alone is a franchise centrepiece that could attract other FAs. Add our component GM and Toronto isn't seen as the North Pole anymore.
I have only been following the raps for a few years now (seriously following) so I can't truly relate to 20 years of disappointment and embarrassment.
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Jangles wrote: View PostNothing to do but give him time. I have some thoughts on what I'd like to see but my opinion doesn't matter at all at the end of the day. I'll remain a fan regardless of what we do, but there is one method that I simply personally prefer. No big deal.
The above is a very rare case, but imagine just getting one of those 4 guys. That 1 guy alone is a franchise centrepiece that could attract other FAs. Add our component GM and Toronto isn't seen as the North Pole anymore.
I have only been following the raps for a few years now (seriously following) so I can't truly relate to 20 years of disappointment and embarrassment.
FYI, franchise players can be obtained without selling feces to the city of Toronto and the country of Canada as a whole.
As you can tell, I've pretty much had it with the whole lotto or bust strategy. LOL
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Hotshot wrote: View PostAgreed. Kobe was younger and was playing a second banana to Shaq, so he had easier time to get his points so most of the opponents defense were concentrated in stopping Shaq. In Toronto Vince was the dominant force and the defense was on him at all times and despite that he put on comparable stats. There was even a strong trade rumor from the Lakers regarding trading Kobe for Vince straight up at one point.
Also during the matchup's with the Lakers during Carter first 2-3 seasons he managed to get the better of Kobe (cue nostalgic video)
Oh man....Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Jangles wrote: View PostI hear ya man. Good thing we have the Brazillian KD just waiting to break out
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Jangles wrote: View PostLet's say we drafted KD, RW, Ibaka and Harden from 2007-2011, would your statement still hold truth? I would think FAs would be taking discounts to play with these guys, regardless if it's in Toronto, Miami, Charlotte, etc.
What about another obvious example the Spurs?
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Apollo wrote: View Post*gets up on soapbox*
Plus hasn't anyone noticed how these teams almost NEVER seem to win the FA superstar sweepstakes? Players don't give a shit about WHY your (not 'you' for this or anything to follow, planetmars) team has had a losing record for four or five years or for MOST of your franchise's history. They only care about the fact that your team is a loser. They grew up laughing at your team, their agent reminds them of how much your team stinks and then they play your team and see how poor they are first hand. If your team takes a run at a player best believe their agent is trying to use your shitty team reputation to leverage a better deal. They eat, drink and sleep how shitty your team is. It's entrained in them and yet some of you hope somehow, someway that keeping on figuratively bashing your head against a rock is going produce different results?
Hell, at one time Vince Carter was considered better than Kobe and still even then the Raptors couldn't lure in big names without a trade and even then they had to give bad contracts to their guys to keep the team together. If you want to have longevity you need to have respect across the league with the players and their agents and you do not do that by missing the playoffs every year. Why the hell do people think the Raptors had so much trouble keeping their stars in the past? The best thing Ujiri can do is keep fielding playoff teams for as many years as possible, build up the credibility and goodwill around the league and in the process hit on some later draft gems. We've been down this stinkfest road many times and we've seen many stars, many quality players leave. Time for a change, the Raptors are a perfect example of why stinking doesn't payoff in most cases. In most cases the stinkers are essentially glorified d-league teams and will always sink back to this state.
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OKC, Spurs, Memphis etc aren't signing anyone despite being winners for half a decade now (and the spurs nearly 2 decades).
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostThat doesn't seem to be the case historically. Players (top players) have trended to the top markets. The ones that get them the most attention and spend the most money (both on them and teammates). There is the odd exception (LeBron back to his home town and team that drafted him... although Gilbert is still a massive spender), but otherwise players (who matter anyways) are almost always heading to the top tier markets.
OKC, Spurs, Memphis etc aren't signing anyone despite being winners for half a decade now (and the spurs nearly 2 decades).
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Hotshot wrote: View PostGood, it will be a slap to the face to all the people in the Raptors organization who thought winning the Atlantic is some sort of a great achievement worthy of a celebration.
Now it's officially meaningless.
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