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DanH wrote: View PostMasai wanted Giannis in his draft. Do you think he didn't want Giannis in that draft? He didn't get him, so clearly he didn't want him.
The Raptors would have had several guys in each tier - you can't say they didn't want any of them because they didn't trade for extra picks to take them all. That's crazy.
They clearly got the 2nd rounder hoping to pick up someone they had ranked in the second round. They clearly were ecstatic that a guy they would have taken in the first round HAD THEY ALREADY HAD A PICK THERE slipped to them.
How is this difficult to grasp?
There weren't any signs MU was trying to get another pick, grabbing Powell at #46 was fortunate but they didn't make him a priority.
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golden wrote: View Post+1. Reality doesn't agree with mock drafts either. I'm surprised people don't regularly go back to Chad Ford (and other experts) mock drafts 3-4 years later and mock the hell out of them. In hindsight, they're a joke, or mockery, if you will. lol.
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DanH wrote: View PostTrue. Although, to be fair, so are the results of the actual draft for the most part, in terms of getting the best players first.
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golden wrote: View Post+1. Reality doesn't agree with mock drafts either. I'm surprised people don't regularly go back to Chad Ford (and other experts) mock drafts 3-4 years later and mock the hell out of them. In hindsight, they're a joke, or mockery, if you will. lol.
Draftexpress did very well this year. Projected the lottery except for 3.
After the first round it really is a crapshoot.
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raptors999 wrote: View PostMasasi tried to trade for Gianni's desperately, he even said that. Again MUs office is very secretive but the Ennis, Harris at #20 was shown in photos and the Memphis potential trade was disclosed. Raptors taking Wright first round is obvious since they took him. Everything else is just speculation.
There weren't any signs MU was trying to get another pick, grabbing Powell at #46 was fortunate but they didn't make him a priority.
In what way are you refuting that at this point? You've built strawman after strawman but have done nothing to cast any doubt on that report.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostMock drafts don't claim to be truth, do they? They're guesses. Not sure that's worthy of mockery.
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DanH wrote: View PostDid anyone claim he was made a priority? What are you arguing against now? There has been one claim and one claim only: the Toronto Raptors front office had Powell one tier below Wright and projected as a first round pick.
In what way are you refuting that at this point? You've built strawman after strawman but have done nothing to cast any doubt on that report.
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raptors999 wrote: View Postthere is nothing to suggest that Powell would have been taken first round except some random tweet that Raptor FO never confirm or deny. if you see what the Raptors actually did, take Wright #20 then wait until pick #46 to draft Powell shows that they were willing to wait until pick #46 to draft Powell after taking Wright #20. Picks inbetween can be bought with cash + #46
All the second round picks that moved for 1 other second rounder and cash above our second round pick:
None.
Closest is Philly's 35th pick, moved for 2 future 2nd's (New York's, so more valuable than what we could offer) and cash. CHA made a similar trade (with BKN).
To beat those offers, we would have had to offer three 2nd rounders. We couldn't use our current year's pick, the reason those teams traded the pick is because they didn't like anyone on the board. So Masai is unwilling to empty 3 second rounders for a guy they saw as a late 1st rounder, and that's inconceivable to you?
No front office will ever confirm or deny stuff like this. That has no bearing on its veracity. The reality is you've presented no logical reason why the tweet might be untrue.
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DanH wrote: View PostDid anyone claim he was made a priority? What are you arguing against now? There has been one claim and one claim only: the Toronto Raptors front office had Powell one tier below Wright and projected as a first round pick.
In what way are you refuting that at this point? You've built strawman after strawman but have done nothing to cast any doubt on that report.
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raptors999 wrote: View Postthat the Raptor taking Powell was like a second first round pick. it isnt he is a second round pick. an unguaranteed draft pick that might someday play like DeAndre Danials. Wright is actually a first round pick and expected to be on the NBA roster and is guaranteed 2 years and considered a bust if he never plays meaningful minutes just like Bruno
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raptors999 wrote: View Postthat the Raptor taking Powell was like a second first round pick. it isnt he is a second round pick. an unguaranteed draft pick that might someday play like DeAndre Danials. Wright is actually a first round pick and expected to be on the NBA roster and is guaranteed 2 years and considered a bust if he never plays meaningful minutes just like Bruno
One thing you're missing though is Raptors front office opinion.
It was the front office's opinion Powell was a first round pick.
Obviously he wasn't because he was drafted in the 2nd round.
But the opinion of the front office is he was worthy of a first round pick.
So it is their opinion they got the talent of a first round pick at #46.
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raptors999 wrote: View Postthat the Raptor taking Powell was like a second first round pick. it isnt he is a second round pick. an unguaranteed draft pick that might someday play like DeAndre Danials. Wright is actually a first round pick and expected to be on the NBA roster and is guaranteed 2 years and considered a bust if he never plays meaningful minutes just like BrunoFor still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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raptors999 wrote: View Postyes, this arguement started because someone claimed Powell is like getting two first rounders. I like Powell but nobody should be expecting him to make the NBA just hoping eventually he does.
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