Imo the only team worse than the Knicks in the east is Philly.
Melo is a bonafide star but he's not gonna carry scrubs to a lot of wins lol. Especially if he's not motivated.
Kobe, who was better than Melo, and had every bit of motivation to prove he could win without Shaq, only won 34 games in 04-05 with much better players (Odom and Butler) by his side.
Hard for guys like Kobe and to a greater extent Melo to carry poor rosters to a lot of wins because their games don't really make their teammates better. Aside from drawing defensive attention. They can be devastatingly awesome on good teams though.
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JWash wrote: View PostAgreed. Imo the following teams are just clearcut better than the Knicks:
Cleveland
Atlanta
Chicago
Toronto
Milwaukee
Washington
Boston
Indiana
Miami
That's 9 teams. Then you've basically got them fighting with Detroit, Orlando, Brooklyn which imo all have more talent than the Knicks do.
Boston is questionable, they haven't a talent Like Melo.
Indiana is questionable as well, they are far from a complete team imo, further away than NYK
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DanH wrote: View PostI'd bet they are 11th or worse in the East.
Cleveland
Atlanta
Chicago
Toronto
Milwaukee
Washington
Boston
Indiana
Miami
That's 9 teams. Then you've basically got them fighting with Detroit, Orlando, Brooklyn which imo all have more talent than the Knicks do.
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The only numbers on that list that look totally wonky to me are Cleveland at 51 and Boston at 47. Although I do think that we're going to begin to see a real decline from Lebron next season...but SI wasn't making their predictions based on anything like that, so it's hard to say how their 51 makes sense.
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DanH wrote: View PostI'd bet they are 11th or worse in the East.
And if Melo is healthy and his head is on right he can win ALOT of games on his own.
Lopez is a very good center, OQuinn is gonna have a good year there, If Afflalo finds his shot and Jose stays healthy that team contends for PLayoffs imo.
Jose
Afflalo
Melo
OQuinn
Lopez
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostI'm not sure what gets me more giddy...
Projections showing Raps finishing 1st in east or Knicks finishing 4th last OVERALL.
At this point regular season means jack.
I said last year, in preseason and very early, the year was a failure without a playoff series win. They couldn't even must A win.
Same goes this year....no playoffs series win, wasted season.
If they can get some on and off ball movementwhile returning to a top 10 D.....that will be tough to stop.
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I'm not sure what gets me more giddy...
Projections showing Raps finishing 1st in east or Knicks finishing 4th last OVERALL.
At this point regular season means jack.
I said last year, in preseason and very early, the year was a failure without a playoff series win. They couldn't even must A win.
Same goes this year....no playoffs series win, wasted season.
If they can get some on and off ball movement while returning to a top 10 D.....that will be tough to stop.
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Axel wrote: View PostThe next time you post "Demar" in a non-Demar thread, I'm banning you for 24 hours.
I could see the Raps winning 52, but I don't think that's enough to win the east. Cleveland wins close to 60 next year imo.
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Mindlessness wrote: View PostAre they taking into account Melo's injury? Melo's WS total was affected by that was it not?Axel wrote: View PostFROM SI
"I also projected how superstars returning from injuries (Kevin Durant, Paul George, Carmelo Anthony) could affect the playoff race by extrapolating their Win Shares in the limited time they played last year to a “healthy” season."
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Axel wrote: View PostWith a 2.74 win margin of error since 1962.
2.74 win margin likely bumps Raps to 3rd (Cleveland up, then either Chicago or Atlanta jumps us).
2.74 win margin still keeps NYK as a top 6 pick.
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