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  • 3inthekeon
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    white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Except that when we utilize Jonas a decent amount, he does command double teams. So I don't think it validates anything Casey has said

    *to me it validates a lot of what posters here say in the sense that Casey doesn't know how to fully utilize the pieces he has.
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    He is good enough to command double teams, he does command double teams, it's the kick out part that he has not mastered whatsoever (and as I noted earlier was in my opinion the reason Bayno was terminated). He hesitates far too long when doubled. Occasionally he gets stripped, rarely finds a cutter, or a quick outlet. Mostly he just wastes clock and ends up tossing back out to the perimeter.

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  • white men can't jump
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    3inthekeon wrote: View Post
    Except Pops quotes validate what Casey is doing.
    Except that when we utilize Jonas a decent amount, he does command double teams. So I don't think it validates anything Casey has said

    *to me it validates a lot of what posters here say in the sense that Casey doesn't know how to fully utilize the pieces he has.
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  • 3inthekeon
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Here is Pop with a rationale explanation of basketball versus Casey's insane midget ball

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...r-bigs-in-nba/
    Except Pops quotes validate what Casey is doing.

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  • raptors999
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    Here is Pop with a rationale explanation of basketball versus Casey's insane midget ball

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...r-bigs-in-nba/

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  • raptors999
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    KHD wrote: View Post
    i dunno, with Hamilton you knew you were going to run all night, and Tayshaun was a guy you always had to look out for when he was defending.

    Actually if derozan/ross would run even a quarter as much as Hamilton without the ball we'd be in a much better positon.
    Piston were an example of good position players at every position that complimented each other. Rip was a protypical SG, Prince SF, the two Wallace's were a great front with each masking the other deficiencies. Billups a good PG that was surrounded by good players. That model is easier to draft and build than a positionless model that requires being very good and lucky acquiring players and developing.

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  • KHD
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    Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Well... I dont know about Rip or Prince instilling fear into anyone lol
    i dunno, with Hamilton you knew you were going to run all night, and Tayshaun was a guy you always had to look out for when he was defending.

    Actually if derozan/ross would run even a quarter as much as Hamilton without the ball we'd be in a much better positon.

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  • Mr.Z
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    ball4life wrote: View Post
    and they had a dominating "I'll beat the shit out of you" personality in every position. it kinda instilled fear on other teams.
    Well... I dont know about Rip or Prince instilling fear into anyone lol

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  • ball4life
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    Mindlessness wrote: View Post
    Technically, Detroit had a dominant defence.
    and they had a dominating "I'll beat the shit out of you" personality in every position. it kinda instilled fear on other teams.

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  • Mindlessness
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    Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    how many teams have ever won without a dominant anything? that is the question we need answered. people going to say pistons and there is one. any others? last year almost the entire hawks team made the all star team, ran into lebron. games are 48 minutes long and your star players can play 40 of those minutes in the playoffs, i think lebron has played entire games. more than any other sport, save bowling i guess, basketball is a star run league. we need one of those dominant players at any position
    Technically, Detroit had a dominant defence.

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  • Miekenstien
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    grindhouse wrote: View Post
    how many teams have won without a dominate big warriors (2 of the grestest 3 point shooters in nba history), chicago (2 of the greatest players in nba history, 4 hall of famers). so you basicly have to turn on god mode for small ball to work.

    you know what the real reason we are running small ball... cause derzan cant hit 3's he is a post up guy so they need to keep spacing. sorry to say it but we have to play unconventenal because he is our star player which doesnt really fit the team.
    how many teams have ever won without a dominant anything? that is the question we need answered. people going to say pistons and there is one. any others? last year almost the entire hawks team made the all star team, ran into lebron. games are 48 minutes long and your star players can play 40 of those minutes in the playoffs, i think lebron has played entire games. more than any other sport, save bowling i guess, basketball is a star run league. we need one of those dominant players at any position

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  • grindhouse
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    mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    One side of the ship is getting over loaded.


    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/articl...eeping-the-nba



    What really bugs me about the whole 'small ball' hype is the lack of focus on the players needed to run such an offense.

    It is not easy to find 4-5 guys all 6'7" or bigger who can all switch and defend any opponent, shoot, pass, dribble, rebound, and defend.

    Just like there is more than one way to build a team, there is more than one way to win as a team. Too much recency bias going on here. It is a touch ridiculous because Golden State is the poster child for this current movement yet they only ditched their slow plodding starting C for the last 3 games of the NBA Finals because it was advantageous from a specific match up perspective. The Warriors had rolled through playoffs until Finals and they had a 67 win season.... all with Bogut heavily involved.
    how many teams have won without a dominate big warriors (2 of the grestest 3 point shooters in nba history), chicago (2 of the greatest players in nba history, 4 hall of famers). so you basicly have to turn on god mode for small ball to work.

    you know what the real reason we are running small ball... cause derzan cant hit 3's he is a post up guy so they need to keep spacing. sorry to say it but we have to play unconventenal because he is our star player which doesnt really fit the team.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    BS10 wrote: View Post
    Small ball only works when you have good defenders. Now we got our defenders. Hopefully this experiment works out or I'm sure Masai will pull the plug mid-season.
    Good defenders are a start.

    Then you need a combination of guys who can switch on to just about anyone on the court.

    Then you need shooters.

    Then you need passers.

    Then you need ballhandlers.

    Then you need solid rebounders especially considering they are likely to be undersized at position.


    Raptors don't have that combination.

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  • BS10
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    Small ball only works when you have good defenders. Now we got our defenders. Hopefully this experiment works out or I'm sure Masai will pull the plug mid-season.
    Last edited by BS10; Fri Jul 24, 2015, 11:42 PM.

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  • Chr1s1anL
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    This roster is a lot better suited to play small ball than last years.

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  • KeonClark
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    Bandit wrote: View Post
    To close out a game where we have a 5 point lead? Love the look of that lineup.
    So do I. Unfortunately demar is caseys guy come hell or high water, and JJ is his guy when hell is frozen

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