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  • #91
    stretch wrote: View Post
    Bill Simmons had difficulty fathoming the fanatical adoration of JV on this site so he coined the phrase "Jonas Christ Superstar."
    Bill Simmons reads RR? Awesome.

    Every time I've heard him use that it is in praise of JV. He's a comedian, he likes to make funny nicknames for guys. I've never heard him call Jonas that in a disparaging manner, as you're trying to imply.

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    • #92
      JWash wrote: View Post
      Christian at this point I think I'm going to exit this debate. Comparing TT's value to JV's is blasphemous imo and I'm not really interested in continuing to argue that.
      Agree to disagree than. When they both start their numbers are similar. I don't how that blasphemous.
      @Chr1st1anL

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      • #93
        stretch wrote: View Post
        Bill Simmons had difficulty fathoming the fanatical adoration of JV on this site so he coined the phrase "Jonas Christ Superstar."
        I hear writers around the league talking about Jonas' potential. I've heard (as I guess most of us die-hards have) that quite a few expect him to be an all-star next year.

        (And "no" that's not an invitation to slag JV ... or Casey. Please - put the wet-towels down. They're smelly. My ass is sore enough )

        But regardless ... I like Jonas. I really do. And that matters to me. I enjoyed the hell out of the Darryl Sittler and Mats Sundin and Doug Gilmour led teams (I'm in my 50's) . They didn't win cups. But they were great fun to watch ... as a boy and as a man. It's more fun to watch them have playoff success, no doubt. But I wouldn't trade those memories, now, for anything.

        And I feel a bit sorry for those who really wish they could.

        (But "Jonas Christ Superstar" - THAT'S funny
        Last edited by Wild-ling#1; Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:22 PM.

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        • #94
          thead wrote: View Post
          just because the league is shifting a certain way doesn't mean you need to go with it. In fact you can have a lot of success going against the grain

          A lot of people say no long 2s. But if teams gear their defense to taking away the 3....well guess what shots start to open up

          I'm sure you could win a lot of games especially in the post season by focusing on being an elite gang rebounding team on both sides but especially on offense
          I wish there was a thread dedicated to just the topic of small ball and why the league is shifting that way. And while I think that the standard half court, defense first team like the Ben Wallace Pistons would be good in most any era and would be the style JV would thrive in, I don't see the same post season success a team like that would have in the regular season.

          For as much talk about how GSW is a rare team boasting the two best shooters in the league and surrounded by above average shooters...you have to consider they also did beat the best half court team in the league as well (Memphis). And while we don't have the personnel of GSW, we also do not have the personnel of Memphis. So despite not having the personnel of a GSW, I see the validity in shaping the team to play what is becoming a donimant, post season, winning brand of basketball. And creating a system based on that.

          It's definitely a really interesting topic/debate.

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          • #95
            LJ2 wrote: View Post
            I wish there was a thread dedicated to just the topic of small ball and why the league is shifting that way. And while I think that the standard half court, defense first team like the Ben Wallace Pistons would be good in most any era and would be the style JV would thrive in, I don't see the same post season success a team like that would have in the regular season.

            For as much talk about how GSW is a rare team boasting the two best shooters in the league and surrounded by above average shooters...you have to consider they also did beat the best half court team in the league as well (Memphis). And while we don't have the personnel of GSW, we also do not have the personnel of Memphis. So despite not having the personnel of a GSW, I see the validity in shaping the team to play what is becoming a donimant, post season, winning brand of basketball. And creating a system based on that.

            It's definitely a really interesting topic/debate.
            Your wishes can come true! Go ahead - start a thread. I just started my first thread. Actually ... this one!

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            • #96
              You wanna know who TT reminds me of almost down to the exact point, and if I hadn't poofed, would've made my LL team as my last pick?



              Jayson Williams of the 90's.


              Williams was a 13 and 13 guy in his prime. He made one ASG, was often injured and never played a full year in his career.


              Is that something you'd like to have here in TO?
              Axel wrote:
              Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
              KeonClark wrote:
              We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.
              KeonClark wrote:
              I can't wait until the playoffs start.

              Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink

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              • #97
                Cody73 wrote: View Post
                You wanna know who TT reminds me of almost down to the exact point, and if I hadn't poofed, would've made my LL team as my last pick?



                Jayson Williams of the 90's.


                Williams was a 13 and 13 guy in his prime. He made one ASG, was often injured and never played a full year in his career.


                Is that something you'd like to have here in TO?
                Cody man, where have you been?
                A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock

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                • #98
                  Cody73 wrote: View Post
                  You wanna know who TT reminds me of almost down to the exact point, and if I hadn't poofed, would've made my LL team as my last pick?



                  Jayson Williams of the 90's.


                  Williams was a 13 and 13 guy in his prime. He made one ASG, was often injured and never played a full year in his career.


                  Is that something you'd like to have here in TO?
                  The injury reference doesn't apply to Thompson because I believe he hasn't missed a single NBA regular season game in the last three seasons.

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                  • #99
                    e_wheazhy_ wrote: View Post
                    Cody man, where have you been?
                    Moving atm.



                    I'm not finished just yet either, so my net time's been limited as of late. Not fun.
                    Axel wrote:
                    Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
                    KeonClark wrote:
                    We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.
                    KeonClark wrote:
                    I can't wait until the playoffs start.

                    Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink

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                    • #100
                      Cody73 wrote: View Post
                      Moving atm.



                      I'm not finished just yet either, so my net time's been limited as of late. Not fun.
                      Dang that sucks
                      A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock

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                      • #101
                        stretch wrote: View Post
                        The injury reference doesn't apply to Thompson because I believe he hasn't missed a single NBA regular season game in the last three seasons.
                        You right....



                        But Williams best seasons were at the end of his career.... where he played 70, 75 and then only 30 games sadly. But what I'm getting at is that throwing money at a 13 and 13 guy feels like a bad move to me.
                        Axel wrote:
                        Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!
                        KeonClark wrote:
                        We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.
                        KeonClark wrote:
                        I can't wait until the playoffs start.

                        Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink

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                        • #102
                          Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                          The guy averaged 12 and 12 in finals. His stats are very similar to JV's when he started for the Cavs. I think his on par with JV. A solid starter. I think if he comes to TO his price will come down.

                          At 6.8m I think you trade for him and if his still asking for 94m at the end of the year. Let him walk away from his home town. I think Masai would have more leverage than the Cavs do. I think in the new cap around 17m would be fair. For a kid that has his best basket ball a head of him.
                          but if you let him walk... and you trade someone like 2pat .... then you basically let 2pat walk away for nothing...

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                          • #103
                            TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
                            but if you let him walk... and you trade someone like 2pat .... then you basically let 2pat walk away for nothing...
                            True you still have the Knicks/Nuggets picks in this draft. Which is loaded with bigs.
                            @Chr1st1anL

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                            • #104
                              Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                              True you still have the Knicks/Nuggets picks in this draft. Which is loaded with bigs.
                              So the better plan is....keep PP and draft a PF.
                              "My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
                              "If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy

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                              • #105
                                Just Is wrote: View Post
                                So the better plan is....keep PP and draft a PF.
                                I like this plan... instead of forcing Al Horford to play out of position.. or trade up in the draft. We may not even need Jamal Murray....

                                We are getting a top 10 talent via draft this year and even if we retain everyone and have a decent season we will be even better next season.

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