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2016, Lebron vs. KD: The Battle for T-Dot

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  • KeonClark
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    If you want to hunt guys in 2017, better get Ross and DD signed for a combined 24M or less. Or we are going to have to pull some stunts to get max cap room.
    Almost every team has to "pull some stunts" to get their guy. Its always possible in the offseason, you just move some tables and chairs around

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  • charlesnba23
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    As said earlier, it's a long process. We are only at the beginning of it.

    You say that this team is led by DeMar and Lowry. I say this team is led by DeMar, Lowry, Carroll and JV. We will not win it all this year, neither next.

    We have to go step by step.

    As to quote Snooch saying that if the players play the same and we have same win total as last season changes gotta be made, well, I agree with this.

    But this won't happen. JV will contribute a lot more, as for Carroll who will have to play at the level of his contract. If not, then yeah, changes gotta be made.

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  • Mindlessness
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    charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Well, I don't think you sacrifice the potential of this team for the possibility of getting a max FA.

    The Spurs traded Splitter and did not retain Joseph to sign Aldridge this summer and this is the kind of things we will need to do in 2017, whether it's not re-signing Lowry/PPat or trading guys like Ross or DeMar.
    What potential? A DeMar/Lowry-led team has a near-nil chance of making it to the ECF ahead of the Cavs, Hawks, or Wizards.

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  • Snooch
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    charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Well, I don't think you sacrifice the potential of this team for the possibility of getting a max FA.

    The Spurs traded Splitter and did not retain Joseph to sign Aldridge this summer and this is the kind of things we will need to do in 2017, whether it's not re-signing Lowry/PPat or trading guys like Ross or DeMar.
    you are wrong.

    This team has no real potential right now outside of MAYBE hitting second round if all things click for 7 games.

    You dont sit on losing hands mate, you make moves to win.

    If this team AGAIN performs like last season, wins about the same, individual players perform the same, then changes MUST be made.

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  • charlesnba23
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    If you want to hunt guys in 2017, better get Ross and DD signed for a combined 24M or less. Or we are going to have to pull some stunts to get max cap room.
    Well, I don't think you sacrifice the potential of this team for the possibility of getting a max FA.

    The Spurs traded Splitter and did not retain Joseph to sign Aldridge this summer and this is the kind of things we will need to do in 2017, whether it's not re-signing Lowry/PPat or trading guys like Ross or DeMar.

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  • DanH
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    If you want to hunt guys in 2017, better get Ross and DD signed for a combined 24M or less. Or we are going to have to pull some stunts to get max cap room.

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  • charlesnba23
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    We are not getting KD in 2016. DeMar will re-sign, as will Ross.

    It's in 2017 that we are going to be players in free agency. After 4 seasons at around 50 wins and more, here is the top 5 free agents in 2 summers:

    Stephen Curry
    Russell Westbrook
    Blake Griffin
    Derrick Rose
    Serge Ibaka

    If we get one of those, we are a championship caliber team the year after. Off course there will be trades or guys not returning, but that's part of the business. I'm telling you, whatever happens, we are getting a top FA in 2017, which means one of those guys, probably.

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  • Mapko
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    RepTdot wrote: View Post
    not holding my breathe, LeBron is going nowhere, only in Clevland can he be star, coach & gm. He's a Cav for life now. Kobe just played two year too many but he was never gonna leave the Lakers as well. But yea I'm with you that we may have a Hail Mary pass to the end-zone from the 20 yards line type chance at KD. Rooting for some chemistry issues between him & Westbrook, coaching clashes with Billy Donovan, another missed playoffs and just overall shitty things to happen over there, cause I do believe IF he leave OKC, Toronto would get real consideration.
    Honestly, I dont think it's a hail Mary (on both accounts).
    Lebron is clearly ring chasing & will do anything to accomplish that (if he leaves Cavs, Nike will "straighten it out"). He WILL go to any team that helps him accomplish that (and close in on GOAT Jordan).
    With KD, they better at least get to WCF. Frankly, I do not see Westbrook changing yet (carbon copy of Kobe 10-15 yrs ago).
    Is he going to Washington or us (I hope) or ?... Nobody knows yet. One thing is almost sure -KD will not stay in OKC if they lose in 1st or 2nd round.

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  • Mapko
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    After enjoying the All-star game in Toronto, KD will tell OKC that he's not coming back.. in a panic move Presti will trade him to Toronto for DD, Ross, Bebe and LAC's first (he's dealing with Masai so he's not getting the NY/Toronto pick).

    The KD led Raptors beat the Lebron led Cavs in 5 games in the ECF losing to the Warriors in the NBA finals in 6 games.

    Lebron feels like he can't win in Cleveland anymore and decides to join KD and the Raptors by taking a pay cut so that he can win a few more championships.

    Kobe feeling jealous of KD and James' success decides to tag along and join the fun.
    As crazy as it sounds, the way you put it (it kind of "flows") it actually makes a lot of sense.
    Well, maybe not, but i still like it.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    2KJ wrote: View Post
    I would rather have a Lebron-like homecoming for Andrew Wiggins. Lebron's not leaving Cleveland, unless maybe he loses again lol. KD now has health issues.

    Good point.

    This year will allow to see what happens with that.

    He had reinforcement put in on 2nd surgery. He should be good to go. Luckily he isn't a large frame.


    And while this injury can be devastating it is the same one Michael Jordan had in his 2nd year (or was it 3rd?).

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  • 2KJ
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    I would rather have a Lebron-like homecoming for Andrew Wiggins. Lebron's not leaving Cleveland, unless maybe he loses again lol. KD now has health issues.

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  • Puffer
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    Superjudge wrote: View Post
    ...So thats what i can see happening. A war. Two superstars battling for one spot. Once team, in Toronto, on the verge of greatness...
    After I read this line, all I could think of was


    "CAGE MATCH!"

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  • psrs1
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    No.. that's when the pot runs out.
    That's what I was thinking...wow talk about fantasyland. Would love to see it but it's not happening.

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  • KeonClark
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    Those are some Superdrugs you've been taking today Craig

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  • TrueTorontoFan
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    like LBJ isn't leaving cleveland lets be honest. The only reason he signs short contracts is so he can put pressure on management to make changes. That being said he isn't going anywhere he will retire in cleveland. He is from cleveland he has heavily invested in cleveland over the years. KD doesn't have the same routes to OKC thats why he has a chance to leave. That being said we are going to contend with washington. I think we are a better city than washington and if we do better than them and our pick is in the top 7 then he could definitely consider us.

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