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  • OldSkoolCool
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    Maybe .500 but all the pieces around them will be statistical garbage even Murray. Plus a new coach means a new system to learn and gelling time. A few young players wont pan out
    Perfectly ok with that

    As long as there is an identity and a direction

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  • raptors999
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Thing is, a CoJo-Carroll-JV unit that plays the right way still may be very competitive
    Maybe .500 but all the pieces around them will be statistical garbage even Murray. Plus a new coach means a new system to learn and gelling time. A few young players wont pan out

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  • Maury
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    It took Atlanta a year to get better. A one year step back isnt the end of the world if by year 2-3 they look closer to the ECF. It isnt a Sixers type teardown
    Your right. I'm getting carried away with the rebuild thing lol

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    Thing is, a CoJo-Carroll-JV unit that plays the right way still may be very competitive

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  • raptors999
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    Maury wrote: View Post
    I guess, but I'm sure tanking wasn't one of the things he was looking for as a free agent looking for his last team to be a real difference maker on.
    It took Atlanta a year to get better. A one year step back isnt the end of the world if by year 2-3 they look closer to the ECF. It isnt a Sixers type teardown

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  • Maury
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    16+ million reasons say he will
    I guess, but I'm sure tanking wasn't one of the things he was looking for as a free agent looking for his last team to be a real difference maker on.

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    Maury wrote: View Post
    I agree. But will he want to stay if we go into tank mode? We could probably get a decent return for him if we traded him to a contender.
    16+ million reasons say he will

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  • Maury
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    He has shown the ability to play the right way. You can keep that every day of the week
    I agree. But will he want to stay if we go into tank mode? We could probably get a decent return for him if we traded him to a contender.

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
    Yeah I agree, I don't think we can do a "rebuild" without getting rid of KL/DD. If we do go younger by rebuilding and trading/not signing those two, I wouldnt mind keeping Carroll around for a little while. Maybe wait until midseason then trade to a contender or something.
    He has shown the ability to play the right way. You can keep that every day of the week

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  • DogeLover1234
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    As I have been saying, pretty good time for us to a rebuild, and one that will completely change the identity of the team. No longer recycling the bottom talent but actually turning over the main players
    Yeah I agree, I don't think we can do a "rebuild" without getting rid of KL/DD. If we do go younger by rebuilding and trading/not signing those two, I wouldnt mind keeping Carroll around for a little while. Maybe wait until midseason then trade to a contender or something.

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  • raptors999
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    As I have been saying, pretty good time for us to a rebuild, and one that will completely change the identity of the team. No longer recycling the bottom talent but actually turning over the main players
    Give young guys a chance with sn actual coach

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  • Maury
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    I think we need some changes because we cannot close games and it seems like we have hit our ceiling as a team. At the very least a coaching change but I doubt anything will happen.

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    CoJo- Murray - DC -JV Bench - Wrght, Powell, Bebe, Bruno, Bennett + new coach fill out with min
    As I have been saying, pretty good time for us to a rebuild, and one that will completely change the identity of the team. No longer recycling the bottom talent but actually turning over the main players

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  • raptors999
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    Maury wrote: View Post
    That would be even better. We just need picks for the next 2-3 years.
    CoJo- Murray - DC -JV Bench - Wrght, Powell, Bebe, Bruno, Bennett + new coach fill out with min

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  • Maury
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    raptors999 wrote: View Post
    if MU can convince other teams Raptor going young, future picks might get it done. Also means firing Casey
    That would be even better. We just need picks for the next 2-3 years.

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