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  • guyroch
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Let's get out of the first round. The media has no hidden agenda when it comes to sports talk, they're giving the people what they want.
    I know media has no hidden agenda but I do think the fan 590 has been know for a lack of hiring minorities on their airways .... Think about it .. Dean , Blair , Waker and Bob ... You can't get any more white then that ....

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  • KeonClark
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
    There were times when fan 590 had CFL Argo rights and would have Football Fridays and shove Argo news down our throat ... Why if you have the rights to Raptor games then why don't you invest a hour of the day talking about it ? Heck if not in the regular season why not the playoffs ?
    Let's get out of the first round. The media has no hidden agenda when it comes to sports talk, they're giving the people what they want.

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  • guyroch
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    Niagara Raptor wrote: View Post
    as long as hockey is king and makes the most money it will stay this way, people get what they want and they want hockey
    the viewer ratings are always higher for hockey and baseball but these things take time, hockey is entrenched, jays are 40 years old and the raptors 20

    also in a general society sense there is so much to do beyond sports , so many sports to follow through the internet, that it can be hard to gain the spotlight from other sports

    look at the nfl in the states, the sport never stops being in the news all year round, hard to get your place in the sun in a crowded market for people's attention and free time
    There were times when fan 590 had CFL Argo rights and would have Football Fridays and shove Argo news down our throat ... Why if you have the rights to Raptor games then why don't you invest a hour of the day talking about it ? Heck if not in the regular season why not the playoffs ?

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  • psrs1
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
    48-21 Raptors heading too 3 Divison Tittles and Toronto Airways still have Leaf Lunch ... Also lets not forget Baseball central or Football Fridays ...

    Will there ever be a hour dedicated to the sport of Basketball in this market ?
    Sat March 12 Raps beat Heat in OT. Post game 590 and 1050 BOTH doing Leafs coverage --ridiculous. Shame on Toronto sports media. This website is the only site that consistently covers Raps.

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  • Niagara Raptor
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    as long as hockey is king and makes the most money it will stay this way, people get what they want and they want hockey
    the viewer ratings are always higher for hockey and baseball but these things take time, hockey is entrenched, jays are 40 years old and the raptors 20

    also in a general society sense there is so much to do beyond sports , so many sports to follow through the internet, that it can be hard to gain the spotlight from other sports

    look at the nfl in the states, the sport never stops being in the news all year round, hard to get your place in the sun in a crowded market for people's attention and free time

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  • KeonClark
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    S.R. wrote: View Post
    We keep hearing about the popularity of basketball with youth, fastest growing sport, outpacing hockey, etc. It is a good question - when will that start to be reflected in ratings and programming? 10 years? 20?
    Ratings will go up as soon as RR stops stealing the games and pays for tsn and sportsnet lol

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  • S.R.
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    We keep hearing about the popularity of basketball with youth, fastest growing sport, outpacing hockey, etc. It is a good question - when will that start to be reflected in ratings and programming? 10 years? 20?

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  • guyroch
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    The Leafs and Jays have bona fide front men to handle talk radio or simulcasts ...
    Jeff Blair is all baseball all the time. He knows the game inside out and can bring in guest spots from anywhere on the continent that people want to listen to. The supporting cast from Wilner to Buck Martinez to Dan Schulman are incredibly interesting and can carry any conversation to conclusion.
    The Leafs are ingrained in the city like no other team. The front men for the Leafs also know the game and generate a North American wide following. Bob McKenzie.. Pierre Lebrun.... Darren Dregger .... the guys from Leafs Lunch... Its endless. Wrap that up with a fan base that has grown up with the game and its going to get air time.

    Basketball. What a fall off. Its tough to just have to listen to Leo doing colour.. Can you imagine anyone tuning in to hear more of him and Matt for an hour with no game to help drown out this guy ? Mo Pete bless his heart is trying but he just hasn't got it yet. Jack Armstrong is the best of the lot but he is best suited as a guest analyst. Same for Eric and Jonsey and Shrerman. Butch Carter says some outrageous things to get audience attention and seems to be wired in at times and is interesting but he seems to have pissed off the mgmt at Sportsnet and he is hard to find anywhere in the media right now.
    So until TSN or Sportsnet makes the investment into a bona fide basketball guy with personality and media chops who can carry a show like a Jalen Rose who by virtue of his accumen can pull in other North American basketball media types like Bomani Jones , Zach Lowe and even the hated Matt Moore of CBS and other ESPN types for a RAPTORS centric show then be prepared for more of the same... which is nothing.
    Think about it.. would you listen to Leo or Matt or Rod Black at all if weren't for Raptor games on SNET ?
    Is it just me or Mo Pete really bad ? Great guy but this career path he choose isn't for him ...


    T-Mac seems like a natural but he works on ESPN ... I do think Mike James is a natural if I reflect on ex-Raptors ...

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  • Demographic Shift
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    The Leafs and Jays have bona fide front men to handle talk radio or simulcasts ...
    Jeff Blair is all baseball all the time. He knows the game inside out and can bring in guest spots from anywhere on the continent that people want to listen to. The supporting cast from Wilner to Buck Martinez to Dan Schulman are incredibly interesting and can carry any conversation to conclusion.
    The Leafs are ingrained in the city like no other team. The front men for the Leafs also know the game and generate a North American wide following. Bob McKenzie.. Pierre Lebrun.... Darren Dregger .... the guys from Leafs Lunch... Its endless. Wrap that up with a fan base that has grown up with the game and its going to get air time.

    Basketball. What a fall off. Its tough to just have to listen to Leo doing colour.. Can you imagine anyone tuning in to hear more of him and Matt for an hour with no game to help drown out this guy ? Mo Pete bless his heart is trying but he just hasn't got it yet. Jack Armstrong is the best of the lot but he is best suited as a guest analyst. Same for Eric and Jonsey and Shrerman. Butch Carter says some outrageous things to get audience attention and seems to be wired in at times and is interesting but he seems to have pissed off the mgmt at Sportsnet and he is hard to find anywhere in the media right now.
    So until TSN or Sportsnet makes the investment into a bona fide basketball guy with personality and media chops who can carry a show like a Jalen Rose who by virtue of his accumen can pull in other North American basketball media types like Bomani Jones , Zach Lowe and even the hated Matt Moore of CBS and other ESPN types for a RAPTORS centric show then be prepared for more of the same... which is nothing.
    Think about it.. would you listen to Leo or Matt or Rod Black at all if weren't for Raptor games on SNET ?
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:55 PM.

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  • KeonClark
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    Jclaw wrote: View Post
    Hockey works....because it's Canada. Baseball works because they basically play everyday and they've created a fanbase from championship years. Even we the Raps won, I don't think it would change.
    If the Raptors were to win the first major sports championship in canada since 1993, best believe it would change.

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  • Jclaw
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    guyroch wrote: View Post
    I get your point and I bet a lot of Hockey markets in the U.S go to Canada to get hockey podcast fix ...

    Honestly not complaining ... Just curious as to what type of event would have to occur that NBA Raptor would get something like Baseball Central or Leaf Lunch ...

    Could a Conference Game Seven Final ?
    Hockey works....because it's Canada. Baseball works because they basically play everyday and they've created a fanbase from championship years. Even we the Raps won, I don't think it would change.

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  • guyroch
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    Jclaw wrote: View Post
    On the plus side, there's enough basketball podcasts to listen to to cover any lunch hour...which leads me to an idea for a new thread....
    I get your point and I bet a lot of Hockey markets in the U.S go to Canada to get hockey podcast fix ...

    Honestly not complaining ... Just curious as to what type of event would have to occur that NBA Raptor would get something like Baseball Central or Leaf Lunch ...

    Could a Conference Game Seven Final ?
    Last edited by guyroch; Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:02 PM.

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  • Jclaw
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    On the plus side, there's enough basketball podcasts to listen to to cover any lunch hour...which leads me to an idea for a new thread....

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  • Bendit
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    I used to listen to "Hoops" with Smith & Jones on 590...it was a weekly show in the evening (forget the day of week). I am not sure it's still being broadcast. I think there is a similar once-a-week show on 1050 as well....heard it in passing but do not have details. Check the stations radio schedules.

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  • planetmars
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    The general sports fan in Toronto is still not getting Basketball. When TSN or SportsNet are putting together their broadcast schedule, they need to figure out what shows will attract the bigger audiences.

    Unfortunately even with the Raptors success, basketball is just not really cared for. Where as hockey and baseball do so it sells.

    It's a culture thing. It will probably take another generational shift before this changes. Many kids watch the same sport that their parents watched, and they watched the same things their parents watched. It's how I got into hockey. My house was all about hockey. But when the Devils were winning in the mid 90's and the game got boring.. it was about the same time that Jordan was putting on a clinic in the NBA and I completely switched. I haven't looked back despite what my parents or siblings cared about. And its tough to follow a sport that nobody else in your family does. So you have to use forums like this one to discuss your passion.

    Thank god for RR.

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