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Kyle Lowry's Elbow Injury - to rest, or not to rest...
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Barolt wrote: View PostHe shot 38.9% in the playoffs that year. TS% of 48.0%.
If you look at his splits for that year, his best months were actually January, February and March so there's that also.
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Just Is wrote: View PostFor argument's sake; let's say he's playing because there's a medical reason for it.
Is there than a reason for why he played for 40 minutes? More than any of his other team mates (who presumably aren't injured or they, like Scola, wouldn't have played) or even his already own high average minutes per game?
Casey just needs to turn off the competitor switch for a week or two. Yes, Kyle is their leader and does a lot of things to help them win games beyond hitting shots. Kudos to him. But for the Raps to advance in the playoffs and for Casey to keep his job he needs Kyle to do all of those things and shoot better than 25% from the field. It might help. Call it a hunch.
His 3P% is actually better than his FG% since Mar 23rd - 23.3% to 23.1%.
His FG% is worst on the team in that stretch, his 3P% is 2nd to last behind CoJo. And Biyombo is kicking his ass on FT% - shooting 71.4% to Kyle's 62.5%.
Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Mess wrote: View PostI already take part in enough silly arguments here that I don't want to start another one just for the sake of it lol
Casey just needs to turn off the competitor switch for a week or two. Yes, Kyle is their leader and does a lot of things to help them win games beyond hitting shots. Kudos to him. But for the Raps to advance in the playoffs and for Casey to keep his job he needs Kyle to do all of those things and shoot better than 25% from the field. It might help. Call it a hunch.
His 3P% is actually better than his FG% since Mar 23rd - 23.3% to 23.1%.
His FG% is worst on the team in that stretch, his 3P% is 2nd to last behind CoJo. And Biyombo is kicking his ass on FT% - shooting 71.4% to Kyle's 62.5%.
I just don't understand why he's still playing. I mean, there's LITERALLY visual evidence that there is a lot of play going through the guy while he's playing. I literally can't see any argument for him still playing in meaningless games at this point. And even, for the sake of argument, I tried to imagine if there was some reason for him to be playing ... and even that argument fails when he's leading the league in minutes per game since the injury ... and then proceeded to exceed even that minute threshold.
It just doesn't make sense.
Could only think of one possible reason ... and I bolded it."My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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Just Is wrote: View PostI think this is spot on.
I just don't understand why he's still playing. I mean, there's LITERALLY visual evidence that there is a lot of play going through the guy while he's playing. I literally can't see any argument for him still playing in meaningless games at this point. And even, for the sake of argument, I tried to imagine if there was some reason for him to be playing ... and even that argument fails when he's leading the league in minutes per game since the injury ... and then proceeded to exceed even that minute threshold.
It just doesn't make sense.
Could only think of one possible reason ... and I bolded it.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostBut even THAT reason holds no weight. Dwane has already past last year's win total. Running lowry into the ground does serious damage to playoff aspirations. If he thinks masai and the staffs evaluation of him will weigh any importance to these last 8 games, in comparison to the first round, well..at that point I'm convinced he's taking his advice from his Giant Rock.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Just Is wrote: View PostI think this is spot on.
I just don't understand why he's still playing. I mean, there's LITERALLY visual evidence that there is a lot of play going through the guy while he's playing. I literally can't see any argument for him still playing in meaningless games at this point. And even, for the sake of argument, I tried to imagine if there was some reason for him to be playing ... and even that argument fails when he's leading the league in minutes per game since the injury ... and then proceeded to exceed even that minute threshold.
It just doesn't make sense.
Could only think of one possible reason ... and I bolded it.
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Barolt wrote: View PostYou keep ignoring the word gradual.
Did last night's effort from Lowry look like a gradual increase to you?A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock
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e_wheazhy_ wrote: View PostEye test wise, it did. He's playing lots of minutes, sure. But he's not taking as many shots, which helps, he's looking for his teammates more, and is even dribbling with the other hand more to alleviate some of the pressure on his elbowtwitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostHe took more shots and more free throws than his season average.A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock
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e_wheazhy_ wrote: View PostAgain, EYE TEST wise. He looked to get more on his legs in his free throws, which is good. He had it wrapped, which is key, he only took 4 3s, which is high, but not terrible. Would need to see his shot chart from last night to really judge - he could have taken like 10 layups, which also count as shot attempts but don't really aggravate the elbow as much as a 18-20 foot jumper
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...603300TOR.htmlLast edited by Axel; Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:44 PM.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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I don't think we need to be too concerned about the Lowry injury. He's going to be given games off between now and the playoffs to rest, but if his elbow was in real jeopardy of serious damage then MU would step in. His success as well as that of Casey and the organization rests square on Lowry's shoulder ..er elbow?
This isn't like the Redskins grinding RJ III into the ground and risking permanent damage.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostI don't think we need to be too concerned about the Lowry injury. He's going to be given games off between now and the playoffs to rest, but if his elbow was in real jeopardy of serious damage then MU would step in. His success as well as that of Casey and the organization rests square on Lowry's shoulder ..er elbow?
This isn't like the Redskins grinding RJ III into the ground and risking permanent damage.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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