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  • rocwell wrote: View Post
    We should have won last night. Miami sucked. Ugh.
    All the other valid discussions aside, Lowry with a healthy elbow and round 1 would have been done in 5 or 6 games and round 2 would be up 1-0 right now.
    "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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    • MixxAOR wrote: View Post
      yeah but is it his elbow or is it mental
      Looks mental to me....

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      • Barolt wrote: View Post
        This DeMar first/second half thing is real.

        In the first half, we have a +1.6 net rating with DeMar on, +4.8 net rating with him off. Good either way, but slightly better with him off.

        In the second half, we have a -18.4 net rating with him on, +13.5 net rating with him off. Awful with him on the floor, really good with him off the floor.
        I don't think that's all on DeRozan though.

        In the first half, they were passing the ball like crazy, getting good looks. In the second half, it was hero-ball from everybody.

        In the first half, they play their normal rotation. In the second half, there's too much of the Joseph/Lowry/DeRozan lineup - with Lowry's shot going AWOL, they have no perimeter shooters and way too much dribbling from all 3 of them (with no outlets, since nobody can shoot, so the defense only has to defend the ball handler).

        Casey's team was poorly prepared and/or stopped playing the game they prepared for (lots of passing), after the first quarter. Casey can't adapt well in-game.

        As has been the common refrain all season long, guard-centric hero-ball will be the death of this team in the playoffs.

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        • CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
          I don't think that's all on DeRozan though.

          In the first half, they were passing the ball like crazy, getting good looks. In the second half, it was hero-ball from everybody.

          In the first half, they play their normal rotation. In the second half, there's too much of the Joseph/Lowry/DeRozan lineup - with Lowry's shot going AWOL, they have no perimeter shooters and way too much dribbling from all 3 of them (with no outlets, since nobody can shoot, so the defense only has to defend the ball handler).

          Casey's team was poorly prepared and/or stopped playing the game they prepared for (lots of passing), after the first quarter. Casey can't adapt well in-game.

          As has been the common refrain all season long, guard-centric hero-ball will be the death of this team in the playoffs.
          DeMar is the only player on the entire team with a positive 'off' rating in the second half of games in the playoffs.
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          • Lowry was a disaster in this game. Casey needs to tell him his shot is gone, and not to take any more except at the rim or with 3 seconds on the clock. Wide open for a three? That means you are wide open to drive into the lane and hopefully force a rotation away from JV. He's still active defensively, makes big plays, makes good passes (for the most part), rebounds the ball - he's not terrible out there and the team was actually better with him out there than with anyone else. Just stop shooting the ball like you are on a hot streak.
            You can't play like that. If he stops shooting entirely it screws everything else up. He needs to keep taking open looks, otherwise, everything else will break down even further.

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            • slaw wrote: View Post
              You can't play like that. If he stops shooting entirely it screws everything else up. He needs to keep taking open looks, otherwise, everything else will break down even further.
              I disagree.
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              • Casey is a great motivator to rally up the troop but boy is he a terrible in game manager or what. How do you not call a time out and run a play in the overtime when guys look so disoriented almost 4 minutes into a 5 minutes over time and the lead widens to 8.
                Expect mediocrity people. This is the guy we are gonna ride or die with too.

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                • Barolt wrote: View Post
                  DeMar is the only player on the entire team with a positive 'off' rating in the second half of games in the playoffs.
                  No doubt, but it's not just him that goes into ISO mode in the second half. The entire team played so well out of the gate, with lots of passing and involvement of the entire 9-man rotation. It's like Casey gets scared in the second half and decides to simply 'pound the rock' and 'ride or die' with what in his mind is the safest play calling - DeRozan, Lowry and Joseph ISO.

                  The Raptors just make it so easy for the defense to stop them, since they can sell-out on the double-teams and pack the paint, especially when there's maybe one 3pt shooting threat on the court (plus Carroll, Patterson, Ross and Powell are all so streaky/unreliable).

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                  • DanH wrote: View Post
                    I disagree.
                    Dude, you realize that the fact he is not making shots at the moment has already led opposing defences to focus more on other guys. If he's not shooting at all then all those screen and rolls are pointless cause the Heat will just take away the roll man and the outlets and what is Lowry going to do? Dribble it around for 24 seconds? If he is such a liability offensively that you have to tell him not to shoot then just put him on the bench and play Joseph and Wright. We saw too often last night what it looks like when Lowry shies away from shots: he actually was running into teammates trying to avoid the ball.

                    So, you're right, I guess, you can play like that. But you won't win.

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                    • Henry_Chinaski wrote: View Post
                      The worst thing is the obvious. Lowry is injured and can only drive or dish assists. Nothing else.
                      There is a question about that. I heard that Lowry, after the interviews were over, went up to the practice court to make some shots. That doesnt look like someone trying to favour an injury. Heard this on a radio show by a reporter who was in the locker room post game. It is just unfortunate this is happening now and with DD just as bad.

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                      • CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
                        No doubt, but it's not just him that goes into ISO mode in the second half. The entire team played so well out of the gate, with lots of passing and involvement of the entire 9-man rotation. It's like Casey gets scared in the second half and decides to simply 'pound the rock' and 'ride or die' with what in his mind is the safest play calling - DeRozan, Lowry and Joseph ISO.

                        The Raptors just make it so easy for the defense to stop them, since they can sell-out on the double-teams and pack the paint, especially when there's maybe one 3pt shooting threat on the court (plus Carroll, Patterson, Ross and Powell are all so streaky/unreliable).
                        I wasn't talking about just that game, those numbers are for all 8 playoff games. He's consistently worse in the second half.
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                        • Barolt wrote: View Post
                          I wasn't talking about just that game, those numbers are for all 8 playoff games. He's consistently worse in the second half.
                          I know, but it's a byproduct of the shift of the entire team's approach in the second half, as Casey seems to favor ISO play-calling in crunch time. I think his individual numbers are skewed by a couple absolutely dreadful games, but he was hardly the worst offender last night.

                          Lowry was terrible. Joseph was terrible. The lack of 3pt shooting from the 3-headed DD/KL/CJ guard lineup is a huge issue, which essentially forces the team to ISO, since there's no perimeter shooting to defend. Those 3 guys dribble-drive into heavy traffic, and that's exactly what the defense wants them to do.

                          This falls back to Casey and his inability to adapt in-game.

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                          • slaw wrote: View Post
                            Dude, you realize that the fact he is not making shots at the moment has already led opposing defences to focus more on other guys. If he's not shooting at all then all those screen and rolls are pointless cause the Heat will just take away the roll man and the outlets and what is Lowry going to do? Dribble it around for 24 seconds? If he is such a liability offensively that you have to tell him not to shoot then just put him on the bench and play Joseph and Wright. We saw too often last night what it looks like when Lowry shies away from shots: he actually was running into teammates trying to avoid the ball.

                            So, you're right, I guess, you can play like that. But you won't win.
                            He can do a heck of a lot more with the ball than settle for jumpers. Yes, the defence is sagging off him, asking him to shoot, and he is doing so, and it is NOT helping the team, at all. He needs to move into the open space, pressure the defence more, try to get to the rim. The defence still can't give him layups, and the Heat showed early in this one that they WILL open up room for JV inside and for our shooters if the ball handler is attacking the rim and drawing help.

                            Settling for jumpers (especially jumpers that you are not hitting at all) is the worst thing you can do. Miami will be giving Lowry room to shoot anyway until he actually starts hitting some. It's what he does with that space that will determine his success. Brick a bunch of shots and every game will be like this one. Attack the space, or start hitting shots and it's a completely different story. I doubt the latter happens (and it's not really a controllable variable) but the former should be easy for a guy who was near the top of the NBA in drives this year.

                            Even in the playoffs this year, Lowry has been effective creating for his teammates by driving a lot - 9 drives a game, and Indy played him like he couldn't shoot all series (because he couldn't) - he just attacked into the space and forced them to do something, even if it led to more assists than scoring opportunities for him. Last night he drove a total of 4 times. 4 times. Unacceptable. That's as many drives as CoJo, in twice as many minutes.
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                            • Among active players with at least 300 field goal attempts in the postseason, the Raptors’ All-Star guards have the worst shooting percentages in all of the NBA.



                              http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/02/kyle...ooters-so-far/

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                              • I'm just really sad we tied it up like that only to lose
                                The name's Bond, James Bond.

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