How should Raps roster be constructed to beat CAVS next season?

[KeonClark]

Let's see what the other teams do as well. There's whispers lebron will leave cleveland, I don't buy it personally but if he did go back to miami that's the new team to beat. Maybe he goes to the west but again I don't put much stock in it, his brand can't take another hit like that. But then maybe love goes to Boston for say smart and 3 firsts including a nets first. Jefferson retired...Irving has had persistent durability issues. Don't forget lebron is the de facto gm of that team. He may he an otherworldly basketball player but he doesn't stand a chance in a gm competition with masai Ujiri, other than recruitment. The point is don't just write off 2017 as some are suggesting. Lots of work to be done the next few months and then lots to happen in re coming season.

When you reach the conference finals, you should have one burning desire of a goal, be it pronounced or unspoken. The nba finals. Otherwise why compete, and as a fan, why watch?

[Abbas]

[QUOTE=TheWaterboy;660552]I like the Memphis trade, though I'm not entirely sure why Memphis does it.


Honestly, I think Memphis does it even if we don't throw in Wright
So Carter and 17 for Ross and 27
Draft Bendar with 9 and Valentine with 17

Lowry - Cojo - Wright
Demar - Powell - Carter
Carroll - Valentine - Bruno
Patterson- Bender - Bebe
Jonas - Bismack

Honestly that team is a ECF lock and who knows Bendar might be something special one day.
If Durant agrees to here this year, Dont resign Biz and Trade Carroll for a cheap backup Center
If Durant doesnt come, Resign Biz and Keep Carroll, Try to go Sign him next year or some other Elite SF. If we get a Elite SF next year, Trade Biz and Carroll for cheap good back ups and picks

[TheWaterboy]

To Toronto: Carter, #17
Trades - Ross, Wright


To Memphis: Ross, Wright, #27
Trades - #17, Carter

Lowry - Cojo - (#17)
Demar - Powell - Daniels
Carroll - Carter - Bruno
(#9) - Patterson - Bebe
Jonas - Bismack - Vet Min

#9 - Bendar, Chriss, Sabonis, Davis

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To Toronto: Love, #2, Bass, Young
Trades - Jonas, Powell, Carroll, Patterson, Bebe, #9, #27, Clips 2017 Pick, Tor 2017 First


To Cleveland: Carroll, Patterson, #27, Clips 2017 Pick
Trades - Love, 2017 Second


To Lakers: Jonas, Powell, #9, Tor 2017 First, Cavs 2017 Second
Trades - #2, Bass, Young


Lowry - Cojo - Wright
Demar - Henderson
Ingram - Young - Bruno
Love - Bass - Vet Min
Bismack - Vet Min

throw money at Gerald Henderson
we only do this trade to get Ingram

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I like the Memphis trade, though I'm not entirely sure why Memphis does it.

I hate the three-way trade. Love is relatively useless to us without JV, while Patterson is a major part of our current "window" and any secondary window which will follow, Powell is a major part of our current depth, and Carroll is of significant value to us right now, particularly (when healthy) against the Cavs. Also, Patterson/Carroll to the Cavs in lieu of Love makes them significantly better defensively and keeps them in the title discussion for the next 3 years. I'm not sure Ingram is worth the many downsides to this trade for us, or even whether the LA trades the pick at all.

[Puffer]

I guess the simple answer to the question asked by the OP would be "structure the team to be better than Golden State."

That would be more than just baby steps. But maybe Masai is the NBA equivalent of Doctor Spock.

[JawsGT]

draymond green. Perfect fit for PF. If there was a single player we could add to the current roster that would give us the best chance to beat the cavs, I think it's Green. Of course, it's impossible so there's that. Any other Draymond Green types available?

[Abbas]

To TOR: Gibson + #14 + #17
Trades - Ross, Wright, #9. #27


To MEM: Wright + Ross + #27 + #48
Trades - Carter, #17


To CHI: Carter + #9
Trades - Gibson, #14, #48


Lowry - Cojo - (#17)
Demar - Powell - Daniels
Carroll - (#14) - Bruno
Gibson - Patterson - Bebe
Jonas - Bismack - Vet Min

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To Toronto: Carter, #17
Trades - Ross, Wright


To Memphis: Ross, Wright, #27
Trades - #17, Carter

Lowry - Cojo - (#17)
Demar - Powell - Daniels
Carroll - Carter - Bruno
(#9) - Patterson - Bebe
Jonas - Bismack - Vet Min

#9 - Bendar, Chriss, Sabonis, Davis

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To Toronto: Love, #2, Bass, Young
Trades - Jonas, Powell, Carroll, Patterson, Bebe, #9, #27, Clips 2017 Pick, Tor 2017 First


To Cleveland: Carroll, Patterson, #27, Clips 2017 Pick
Trades - Love, 2017 Second


To Lakers: Jonas, Powell, #9, Tor 2017 First, Cavs 2017 Second
Trades - #2, Bass, Young


Lowry - Cojo - Wright
Demar - Henderson
Ingram - Young - Bruno
Love - Bass - Vet Min
Bismack - Vet Min

throw money at Gerald Henderson
we only do this trade to get Ingram

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Trade Ross for salary relief, sign Horford to a 3yr/70m deal, draft Jaylen Brown with the 9th pick and thon maker with the 27th pick

Lowry - Cojo - Wright
Demar - Powell
Carroll - Jaylen Brown - Bruno
Horford - Patterson - Maker
Jonas - Bebe - Vet min

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I like the 4th option the best
Get to the ECF again at minimum
Trade Carroll and Horford after playoffs (2017) for salary cap, picks and a defensive minded PF with a 3pt shoot
Go after durant in 2017 cuz he'll likely sign a 1+1 this year
If durant doesnt come, Keep Carroll and Horford for another year and go after Paul George in 2018

[OldSkoolCool]

Taj Gibson?

I wouldn't call Taj Gibson a low post threat. We should be looking for a David West/ZBo type imo

[Abbas]

Yessss

Al Horford ?

Kevin Durant ?

[charlesnba23]

Taj Gibson?

Yessss

[psrs1]

Looking at how the Cavs are playing against GS, it clearly emphasizes the need for a paint presence, for a couple of reasons:

- When GS's guards go through a rough stretch, the team can't score. Having a low post presence who can score consistently would really help them push through slumps offensively. Post ups aren't incredible productive compared to three point shots or the PnR, but they have a lot of secondary benefits and can be a reliable source for a needed bucket.

- LeBron and Kyrie drive and there is no rim protection. I'm not talking about the lack of an elite shot blocker, but rather there is nobody in the paint that can even just play big....the Cavs just shoot over the 6'7" Draymond.

Basically our roster should be built around low post scoring, PnR, shooting, and being able to attack closeouts.

JV is one guy and can't do it all, so I would say having another dominant low post presence at the PF (instead of a face up guy like Patterson), could be our ticket to the Finals.

Taj Gibson?

[OldSkoolCool]

Looking at how the Cavs are playing against GS, it clearly emphasizes the need for a paint presence, for a couple of reasons:

- When GS's guards go through a rough stretch, the team can't score. Having a low post presence who can score consistently would really help them push through slumps offensively. Post ups aren't incredible productive compared to three point shots or the PnR, but they have a lot of secondary benefits and can be a reliable source for a needed bucket.

- LeBron and Kyrie drive and there is no rim protection. I'm not talking about the lack of an elite shot blocker, but rather there is nobody in the paint that can even just play big....the Cavs just shoot over the 6'7" Draymond.

Basically our roster should be built around low post scoring, PnR, shooting, and being able to attack closeouts.

JV is one guy and can't do it all, so I would say having another dominant low post presence at the PF (instead of a face up guy like Patterson), could be our ticket to the Finals.

[enlightenment]

What if once Lebron wins a chip for Cleveland, he decides that he now wants to win one in Toronto. How interesting would Lebrons legacy be if he brought Canada an NBA championship??

Dropping championships around like Jonny Appleseed.

[Superjudge]

July 1 is coming quickly . It looks likely that DD will be resigned. Biyombo status is still up in the air. Moving forward what is it going to take to have legitimate shot to beat CAVS next season? Short of signing KD as our starting PF(DanH can advise re cap problems) is there a way we could be built to beat CAVS next season? It looks likely that Kevin Love will be moved in offseason . Much of what happens in the next month will determine if we could be in the conversation or not.

Sign Lebron James.

[ebrian]

I agree, and I think the Cavs are in a relatively easy position of retooling their roster. I think regardless of if they win this thing or not, Love can be shipped out for a two-way wing player. Despite his struggles, Love is still a very good player that perhaps just doesn't fit with what they demand from him. Would Houston be interested? They seem hell bent on building a team that doesn't defend.

And they should be able to find a vet that will replace (or at least displace and eventually phase out) JR Smith.

Edit: Here's a deal that works.

Houston gets Kevin Love
Cleveland gets Corey Brewer, Trevor Ariza

Cleveland gets exactly what they want; Houston is losing Howard and get Love. Capella can slide into the starting role and they have a couple of young guys to take over the spots of Ariza and Brewer. Done and done.

[S.R.]

The Cavs need to ship out Love and replace him by upgrading over Jefferson. They'd be very good with a (healthy) Wes Matthews-type at SF, LeBron at PF, TT at C.