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Sonny wrote: View PostWill or should the Raptors re-sign FVV?
We could try to sign him for 1 more year, but I don't think he accepts that. The other option is to give him a competitive contract and then try to flip him later in the year or the following summer before free agency. That becomes risky though. What if he hurts himself or his play gets worse, etc.
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Sonny wrote: View PostWill or should the Raptors re-sign FVV?
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I wonder if he takes a deal similar to Lowry. An overpay, but only for 1 year. Keep our guy and stay flexible for the big summer.
Question (probably for Dan H) if we sign him for a 1 year like Lowry do we retain his bird rights?
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Shredder wrote: View PostI wonder if he takes a deal similar to Lowry. An overpay, but only for 1 year. Keep our guy and stay flexible for the big summer.
Question (probably for Dan H) if we sign him for a 1 year like Lowry do we retain his bird rights?
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Rudy Bargnani wrote: View PostNice 30 point game from FVV last night he outplays Lillard. This guy is getting paid this summer. He might be looking at a $100 mill contract.
The main hope at this point is that China crashes the market (ideally only for this season) and causes the cap to fall, suppressing the free agent market. Or maybe the market is just cool on him regardless - he should have been in line for more than the 10Mx2 we gave him last time, too.
But he's been really good, and is looking like a great option to play off of stars (like Siakam) even if there are still some questions about him being the primary play runner with his limitations driving to the rim.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Sadly this was always the conundrum. The Raptors should hesitate to give him 15M+ if he doesn't prove he can be a scorer. But if he proves he's a scorer, he's suddenly potentially worth more on the market than they can afford to put on their books and maintain flexibility.
The main hope at this point is that China crashes the market (ideally only for this season) and causes the cap to fall, suppressing the free agent market. Or maybe the market is just cool on him regardless - he should have been in line for more than the 10Mx2 we gave him last time, too.
But he's been really good, and is looking like a great option to play off of stars (like Siakam) even if there are still some questions about him being the primary play runner with his limitations driving to the rim.
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Rudy Bargnani wrote: View Post
So if Brogdon is 4 years $85 mill and Rozier is 3 years $58 mill, market value for FVV has to be in the $20mill per range right?
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
Bogdon was a full time starter, Rozier was a back-up similar to Fred. Would that factor into what teams offer him?
Again, I think you just pay him and if circumstances change or 2021 presents another superstar possibility and his salary is in the way, then I don't think you'll have any trouble trading FVV.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Is Fred a back-up? He's starting on an 8-3 team coming off a championship (I know I'm not allowed to say the last part). He's averaging 17 points, 8 assists and shooting 41% from three. He's also starting to get to the free throw line (something he has never done before). His numbers look very close to Rozier's for a bad team.
Again, I think you just pay him and if circumstances change or 2021 presents another superstar possibility and his salary is in the way, then I don't think you'll have any trouble trading FVV.
The upside is we have his Bird Rights. I suspect Masai will try to offer something where the AAV might be a little lower than the market (which is hopefully in the low 20's), say 20M average, but with a dip in year two to maximize 2021 cap room, and with a player option year 5 guarantees him 100M. That's assuming he keeps up those averages for the year.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Well, would you give Fred the max? If not, there is a line somewhere where you wouldn't sign him.
The upside is we have his Bird Rights. I suspect Masai will try to offer something where the AAV might be a little lower than the market (which is hopefully in the low 20's), say 20M average, but with a dip in year two to maximize 2021 cap room, and with a player option year 5 guarantees him 100M. That's assuming he keeps up those averages for the year.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Based on the Rozier and Brogdon deals we have a rough (or very rough) idea of what he is going to get broadly-speaking. From an asset management perspective, you can't really afford to lose him for nothing and Ujiri has done deals in the past to hang on to guys for value as much as anything. If both of the above presumptions are correct then the most likely outcome is a Rozier or Brogdon type deal and I'm fine with that - I don't really care about the particulars or the salary cap impact in 2021.
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