Legacy Finals - Bobloblaw vs JimiCliff

[Mack North]

Wow guys, very tough matchup to call! Congrats to both for making it to the Finals. I hope some more votes get entered...

It's so hard for me to go against LBJ in a matchup like this, but I like Bob's overall team just a tad bit better, so I'm going to go with Bob Loblaw FTW.

[BobLoblaw]

ADJUSTMENT (and i think i'm off for the night as it's 3am here, so good luck!)

Lebron succeeded at every defensive assignment he's ever been given; he'd do the same with McHale.

Heatles should've put him on Dirk then.

ADJUSTMENT:

OUR OFFENCE will feature a lot of motion; ball movement

Knicks tried it, 1996, employed Don Nelson, more flow, less Ewing isos, ball in point forward hands (Anthony Mason). It didn't work with Ewing, and Ewing forced coach and Mason out.

Three of my bench players averaged 20ppg and were All-NBA Defence.

Cliff? Another chucker.

Four of your bench players were only known for playing one side of the court.

Exaggeration.

Ultimately, my bench has better, smarter basketball players.

[JimiCliff]

Three of my bench players averaged 20ppg and were All-NBA Defence. Four of your bench players were only known for playing one side of the court.

We ask Kobe to be Kobe, within triangle, where he's proven.

Boston designed a championship-deciding gameplan assuming he'd take dumbass shots while covered by 2 or 3 defenders - and HE DID. Went 6-24. Proven indeed.

[BobLoblaw]

I'd say this is patently false; we'll let the voters decide.

You have 1 bench guard that you aren't afraid to use. And even he's a choker.

Not sure what this Ewing witch hunt is based on.

Kobe is easily the biggest threat to hurt the offence on either squad.

We ask Kobe to be Kobe, within triangle, where he's proven.

Knicks never could build 'good flow' offense with Ewing, even though they tried. High ego, pure iso player. Poor hands, tunnel vision, turnovers.

[JimiCliff]

ADJUSTMENT:

OUR OFFENCE will feature a lot of motion; ball movement, finding open shooters, attacking interior seams. But we'll also mix it up by going at Penny. We'll run 3-1 and 4-1 p'n'r with Durant/Lebron, get the Penny switch, attack off the dribble, then drive and kick.

[JimiCliff]

They have better forwards, but probably can't defend McHale.

Lebron succeeded at every defensive assignment he's ever been given; he'd do the same with McHale.

Better depth.

I'd say this is patently false; we'll let the voters decide.

Ewing had big ego, poor hands, wanted to be the man; questionable if he won't hurt offense.

Not sure what this Ewing witch hunt is based on.

Kobe is easily the biggest threat to hurt the offence on either squad.

[BobLoblaw]

I'll wait for a couple more posts from you guys

I guess not much left unsaid.

They have better forwards, but probably can't defend McHale.

We have better, bigger backcourt. Better depth. Better center, offensively and defensively.

Ewing had big ego, poor hands, wanted to be the man; questionable if he won't hurt offense. Similar with some of their bench.

[Maury]

My team is high IQ and unselfish. Lebron, Durant and Frazier all showed that they could share the ball while playing with other high-octane, high usage scorers, and their teams all found great success.

Honestly durant couldn't really do it with Russ and they ended up taking turns a lot. Walt is incredibly underrated and he's an all time great point guard IMO.

I don't really see LeBron being able to guard McHale. His strength won't mean much. It's not as much of a mismatch as one would think. In fact, Mchale would work LeBron if you ask me. I'll wait for a couple more posts from you guys but I'm tentatively leaning Bob.

[JimiCliff]

My team is high IQ and unselfish. Lebron, Durant and Frazier all showed that they could share the ball while playing with other high-octane, high usage scorers, and their teams all found great success.

[BobLoblaw]

Ultimately, we are bigger, deeper and higher IQ.

Better and bigger guards, much better anchor leads to better team defense.

Ewing was lowish IQ, turnover prone ball stopper, poor fit for them, and much of their bench are low IQ chuckers.

They can't guard McHale and lack guard depth.


Mullin porn:

[Axel]

Mutombo intimidation porn:

Hahaha that's awesome (and also an All-Star game).

[JimiCliff]

Kobe and Penny are bound to draw fouls.

Walt Frazier: 7 x 1st Team All-Defence.

Joe Dumars: 4 x 1st Team All-Defence.

Lebron James: 5 x 1st Team All-Defence.

Eddie Jones: 3 x 2nd Team All-Defence.

These are all two-way players, making their checks work hard at the other end.

Again: we aren't worried about Penny and Kobe.

[BobLoblaw]

If Pistol doesn't play, Jimi has just one backup guard, and any foul trouble will hurt them. Kobe and Penny are bound to draw fouls.

If Pistol plays, these should be awesome minutes for us, as he's asked to guard a very efficient, smart and skilled Mullin.


Mutombo intimidation porn:

[JimiCliff]

Dumars was ok at triple teaming Jordan with Isiah and Rodman. What'll he do against Kobe here? Kobe, Penny have size advantage and skills, will cause foul trouble and Jimi has no depth.




Pistol played no defense. Mullin and Roy did, just weren't great.

Plus, peak Mullin vs. peak near-GOAT:

Jordan said Dumars was the toughest defender he ever faced; wouldn't have said this if he thought it was due to triple teams.

Pistol's numbers are skewed because no 3pt line. And as I've said, he'll play sparingly, if at all, so no point focusing on him.

[BobLoblaw]

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Don't need another. At least one of Durant/Lebron/Frazier will always be on the floor.

Frazier/Dumars/Lebron are all-time great defenders. They'll be fine.

Dumars was ok at triple teaming Jordan with Isiah and Rodman. What'll he do against Kobe here? Kobe, Penny have size advantage and skills, will cause foul trouble and Jimi has no depth.

And you'd have to hide Mullin (or Roy or Tiny, lol) on near-GOAT scorer Pistol. I win that.

Pistol played no defense. Mullin and Roy did, just weren't great.

Plus, peak Mullin vs. peak near-GOAT: