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  • rightsideup
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    S.R. wrote: View Post
    It's impossible to say how much the coach is responsible for team success, but remember when the Lakers were excited to sign Mike Brown? Yeah.

    Masai's smart enough to not meddle with something that's working, and with Casey the locker room + the on-court product are working. We're always going to have certain beefs with a coach, but Casey's here until we reach that day when the team is underperforming and replacing the coach is easier than trading a core piece. Maybe at that time we'll get to see how Casey does in another situation, but I'd guess he does okay. Imho he's an average coach who has a solid rapport with his players, but the synergy has been good here so you don't mess with it. Credit to him for not "losing" the locker room, quite a few decent coaches seem to have some kind of burnout after 3-5 seasons. I'm all for the continuity the organization finally has.
    I is interesting we bring up the episode of open court...the last time they did that a few coaches moved on...its just the nature of the profession unless your pops

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  • S.R.
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    It's impossible to say how much the coach is responsible for team success, but remember when the Lakers were excited to sign Mike Brown? Yeah.

    Masai's smart enough to not meddle with something that's working, and with Casey the locker room + the on-court product are working. We're always going to have certain beefs with a coach, but Casey's here until we reach that day when the team is underperforming and replacing the coach is easier than trading a core piece. Maybe at that time we'll get to see how Casey does in another situation, but I'd guess he does okay. Imho he's an average coach who has a solid rapport with his players, but the synergy has been good here so you don't mess with it. Credit to him for not "losing" the locker room, quite a few decent coaches seem to have some kind of burnout after 3-5 seasons. I'm all for the continuity the organization finally has.

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  • Demographic Shift
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    golden wrote: View Post
    Not to generalize here.... but when you try to make general statements which generalize perceptions held by a theoretical generic forum poster, it generally triggers a negative reaction. That was your first mistake. lol.
    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Generally speaking of course. But at least our general manager generates positivity from this generation of fans.
    the last time I got specific i got busted by the infraction police.
    Can't go back to do any more hard time in RR jail.
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Oct 11, 2016, 07:59 PM.

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  • KeonClark
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    golden wrote: View Post
    Not to generalize here.... but when you try to make general statements which generalize perceptions held by a theoretical generic forum poster, it generally triggers a negative reaction. That was your first mistake. lol.
    Generally speaking of course. But at least our general manager generates positivity from this generation of fans.

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  • golden
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    It wasn't about the scenario. It was a subtle point about names and what those names evoke. So without an ounce of subtlety what I was getting at was a perception that :

    Most anything written with the name Stevens = Good
    Most anything written with name Casey = Bad


    Doesn't bother me one way or the other your views on Casey or Stevens as good/bad, overrated/underrated, innovator/pragmatist. Just highlighting that in this constituency one can generally predict reaction and negative/positive tone based on the name in the article/story/post.
    Not to generalize here.... but when you try to make general statements which generalize perceptions held by a theoretical generic forum poster, it generally triggers a negative reaction. That was your first mistake. lol.

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  • Demographic Shift
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    Axel wrote: View Post
    Or perhaps it would be dismissed because of the actions associated with the names, due to the fact nothing like that happened in Boston. Plus Stevens hasn't been lauded for his culture as much as his intelligence and demeanor as a coach. Boston didn't have a culture issue like we did; they were turning the page from the Paul Pierce/Garnett championship era and were undergoing a rebuild; all of which happened under Ainge who brought in a new coach.

    You couldn't pick a more different scenario than ours.
    It wasn't about the scenario. It was a subtle point about names and what those names evoke. So without an ounce of subtlety what I was getting at was a perception that :

    Most anything written with the name Stevens = Good
    Most anything written with name Casey = Bad

    Doesn't bother me one way or the other your views on Casey or Stevens as good/bad, overrated/underrated, innovator/pragmatist. Just highlighting that in this constituency one can generally predict reaction and negative/positive tone based on the name in the article/story/post.
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Oct 11, 2016, 04:22 PM.

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  • Nilanka
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I will never forget. Those minutes were honestly more painful and harmful to the team than Scola's were last year and that's a tough bar to clear.
    Casey loves his #SavvyVets though

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  • Axel
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I had to google the 2013-14 roster. I honestly forgot who you were referring to.
    DanH wrote: View Post
    I will never forget. Those minutes were honestly more painful and harmful to the team than Scola's were last year and that's a tough bar to clear.
    Assuming the painful memory we are referring to is



    Don't worry guys, he was totally wide open..

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  • DanH
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I had to google the 2013-14 roster. I honestly forgot who you were referring to.
    I will never forget. Those minutes were honestly more painful and harmful to the team than Scola's were last year and that's a tough bar to clear.

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  • rightsideup
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    Cody73 wrote: View Post
    Terry Stotts. Fun fact, he was also an assistant on that 2011 Mavericks team Casey was on.
    I got the impression that terry and case were assistants Karl's very good Seattle teams

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  • Nilanka
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Is there a difference when speaking to the media? Fact remains he singled out a player as the culprit on the game-losing play. If that's not throwing a player under the bus... Very easy to describe that play without mentioning specific failures of specific players, or better yet to say it shouldn't have come down to one play, which it shouldn't have, and wouldn't have, if the coach didn't have a love affair with the worst player on his team and kept sending him out Scola-style to tank the team's chances to win.
    I had to google the 2013-14 roster. I honestly forgot who you were referring to.

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  • Axel
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Maybe yes or maybe no... all the post was intended to do was to bring to light that if you juxtaposed the names of the GM/Coach for the Celts the narrative would be questioned or dismissed as outlandish because of who the names are. ...
    Or perhaps it would be dismissed because of the actions associated with the names, due to the fact nothing like that happened in Boston. Plus Stevens hasn't been lauded for his culture as much as his intelligence and demeanor as a coach. Boston didn't have a culture issue like we did; they were turning the page from the Paul Pierce/Garnett championship era and were undergoing a rebuild; all of which happened under Ainge who brought in a new coach.

    You couldn't pick a more different scenario than ours.

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  • Mess
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    http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/10...jays-bandwagon

    “Not really,” Casey said Monday when asked about planning to dial the all-stars back a bit.
    There's more context but that's the gist of it.


    Also out of context and has nothing to do with coaching, Sully:
    Well…there’s this thing behind me called my butt. My mom gave me it. That. That’s my style, thanks Mom, I know you get tired of me talking about your butt but you gave it to me. Sorry

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  • DanH
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Was Casey blaming Ross for the loss, or simply describing one specific play (which happened to be the last play)?
    Is there a difference when speaking to the media? Fact remains he singled out a player as the culprit on the game-losing play. If that's not throwing a player under the bus... Very easy to describe that play without mentioning specific failures of specific players, or better yet to say it shouldn't have come down to one play, which it shouldn't have, and wouldn't have, if the coach didn't have a love affair with the worst player on his team and kept sending him out Scola-style to tank the team's chances to win.

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  • Nilanka
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    I would've guessed being a final 4 team last year, would mean Casey's in the top 10 (at the very least).

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