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  • Just woke up. Do we have Millsap yet?
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    • Add Portland as another team sniffing around.

      This sucks. Masai is going to have a hard time beating packages that other teams present since their draft picks will be so much better than anything Masai can deal.

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          • seriously...Kyle Korver on the CAVS...fml
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            • planetmars wrote: View Post
              Add Portland as another team sniffing around.

              This sucks. Masai is going to have a hard time beating packages that other teams present since their draft picks will be so much better than anything Masai can deal.
              It was never going to be an under the radar trade.

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              • The sad truth about the Korver trade (bolstering the top team in Atlanta's conference) is that it probably indicates that Atlanta has given up on catching up to Cleveland over the next 2-3 years. It's entirely possible there is an significant reluctance for Atlanta to make a trade with Toronto because they hope to catch up to Toronto within the next 2-3 years. A Millsap trade with Toronto, even if Atlanta gets a decent return on it, likely makes that harder to do.

                If Millsap doesn't want to be traded anywhere but here, and makes it clear to management that this is the case, then we could very well trade for him anyway. The more Western Conference teams - and in particular, the more Western Conference teams that have the talent to go far in the playoffs - that show interest, the less likely it is that Millsap insists on the Raptors.

                The one thing that may be acting in the Raptors' favor in regards to where Millsap wants to be traded to is that, based on current talent level, and the ability to lose assets without weakening too much, Toronto is likely Millsap's best shot at playing in a championship game. That is doubly so if/when Carroll improves incrementally during the second half of this, his rehab year.

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                • a trade for Millsap gives us about a three to four year contention window

                  provided our core is Lowry, Joseph, DeRozan, Powell, Carroll, Patterson, Millsap and JV.

                  Carroll (if he ever gets healthy), Millsap, and Lowry are probably at their peak

                  DeRozan, Patterson are likely getting close

                  Joseph, and JV can still find another gear or two

                  and Powell is just in his infancy.

                  This is a team that can knock on the NBA championship door for about four years before the retooling would need to begin
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                  • Just got a Score notification stating that the Raptors hope to resign Patterson.
                    "My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
                    "If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy

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                    • TheWaterboy wrote: View Post
                      The sad truth about the Korver trade (bolstering the top team in Atlanta's conference) is that it probably indicates that Atlanta has given up on catching up to Cleveland over the next 2-3 years. It's entirely possible there is an significant reluctance for Atlanta to make a trade with Toronto because they hope to catch up to Toronto within the next 2-3 years. A Millsap trade with Toronto, even if Atlanta gets a decent return on it, likely makes that harder to do.

                      If Millsap doesn't want to be traded anywhere but here, and makes it clear to management that this is the case, then we could very well trade for him anyway. The more Western Conference teams - and in particular, the more Western Conference teams that have the talent to go far in the playoffs - that show interest, the less likely it is that Millsap insists on the Raptors.

                      The one thing that may be acting in the Raptors' favor in regards to where Millsap wants to be traded to is that, based on current talent level, and the ability to lose assets without weakening too much, Toronto is likely Millsap's best shot at playing in a championship game. That is doubly so if/when Carroll improves incrementally during the second half of this, his rehab year.
                      If Atlanta is looking beyond the LBJ window for being competitive in the EC, why would they care about where they stack up relative to Toronto, or any other EC team?

                      I think it makes sense for bubble teams to rebuild/retool, if they don't think they realistically have any hope of competing with the likes of Cleveland or Golden State over the next 2-3 (5?) years. If they're going to do it 'right' (subjective, I know), they should just build a team looking to begin peaking when the LBJ/Curry-Durant reign is over.

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                      • The article on the front page brings up an interesting point that the Cav's may just be untouchable in the East this season with their acquisition of Korver, and thus questions if we should pay the steep fee it's going to cost for Milsap. With our withoul him Cav's may have just booked their trip to the finals without ever playing a playoff game (on paper and barring injury of course).

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                        • Just Is wrote: View Post
                          Just got a Score notification stating that the Raptors hope to resign Patterson.
                          Atlanta hoped to re-sign Horford, too.
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                          • Just Is wrote: View Post
                            Just got a Score notification stating that the Raptors hope to resign Patterson.
                            Not the craziest idea if we do manage not to lose him in a trade for Millsap. We'd be super strong at the four this year and at the end of the season, if Millsap looks like the real deal, you try to resign him. If not, spend less dollars on Patterson. That's the optimistic view but it could work. Until Dan H tells me it can't.

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                            • jimmie wrote: View Post
                              Atlanta hoped to re-sign Horford, too.
                              My what a thought provoking comment.
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                              • LJ2 wrote: View Post
                                The article on the front page brings up an interesting point that the Cav's may just be untouchable in the East this season with their acquisition of Korver, and thus questions if we should pay the steep fee it's going to cost for Milsap. With our withoul him Cav's may have just booked their trip to the finals without ever playing a playoff game (on paper and barring injury of course).
                                Did the article mention they still have a trade exemption to upgrade their backup PG position?

                                Edit: Never mind. Just read the article. It was Blake. He's good.
                                Last edited by 3inthekeon; Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:53 AM.
                                If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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