Everything Trade Chatter

[KHD]

If Masai can turn Sully into one of Thabo or Tucker its been a great trade deadline.

I still think Raps value Cory's playoff experience. Also I think he will be a better defender with a guy like Ibaka behind him. I think Cory has been the player that's been the most effected by the depature of Biz. It's easier to go all out when you know you have support behind you.

Guys like Gallo, Chandler and Aminu are out of our price range.
I think Masai will get Tucker. He was rumoured to be interested in him last trade deadline. I think he gets him this year. I don't think he gives up a 1st for him though. Probably Sully and a second.

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wait, so because you have less rim protection behind you you should allow more penetration directly to the basket? ok.

[Odin]

Amina is a good pick up if you then look to dump Carroll and CoJo. Powell starts at the 3, Aminu is your specialist to check big wings. You shed about 15M a year in salary if those two are gone and Aminu is added. Interesting.

Don't think Carroll and Joseph are going anywhere between now and deadline. Draft night? Maybe.

Problem with Carroll is, even in new salary cap world, he is paid too much. I think Masai ends up riding that mistake out but has lots of options waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) with Powell, Amini/Tucker, Bruno, and possibly draft pick(s).

[Chr1s1anL]

wait, so because you have less rim protection behind you you should allow more penetration directly to the basket? ok.

No, it means you can be more aggressive on perimeter. Take more chances.

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[KHD]

Don't think Carroll and Joseph are going anywhere between now and deadline. Draft night? Maybe.

Problem with Carroll is, even in new salary cap world, he is paid too much. I think Masai ends up riding that mistake out but has lots of options waiting in the wings (pardon the pun) with Powell, Amini/Tucker, Bruno, and possibly draft pick(s).

problem with carroll is that he's completely awful at everything outside spot up shooting. probably the dumbest "defence first" player i have ever seen. constantly gambling for steals he can't even hope to get, zero ability to play angles (and zero lateral quicks to make up for it), constantly leaving his assignment. On top of that he's hopeless with the ball in his hands, and our idiot coach keeps putting him in positions where he has to dribble.

[KHD]

No, it means you can be more aggressive on perimeter. Take more chances.

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problem with cory, and all the guards, this year is not about taking chances. they just straight up aren't trying out there. You'd think that knowing Biyombo is gone they'd be smart enough to realize they need to prevent penetration slightly better than last year, but they clearly don't.

[Odin]

problem with carroll is that he's completely awful at everything outside spot up shooting. probably the dumbest "defence first" player i have ever seen. constantly gambling for steals he can't even hope to get, zero ability to play angles (and zero lateral quicks to make up for it), constantly leaving his assignment. On top of that he's hopeless with the ball in his hands, and our idiot coach keeps putting him in positions where he has to dribble.

Much like Valanciunas and Joseph, I believe he is better than his play with the Raptors suggests. He is a system player playing without any systems.

[KHD]

Much like Valanciunas and Joseph, I believe he is better than his play with the Raptors suggests. He is a system player playing without any systems.

well, i agree with that much, he would be better in an actual system, especially on offence. But my bigger issue is really that he legitimately can't do any of the things that he was supposed to be able to do defensively in a 1 on 1 scenario.

[lewro]

Yeah, I agree that aminu/Gallo level of talent would be good but we're throwing around a 50ish pick like somebody wants it. Gsw bought McCaw last yr for cash.
The best assets we have to offer blazers is a 1st and bebe. Maybe they listen to bebe+sully for aminu but that only saves them a few bucks. They really need to move Turner or Crabbe.

[tDotted]

Portland is not going to give Aminu away unless it's for a clearly better player. He's their 3rd best player and one of the 2 most impactful.

[Odin]

I'm not sure Aminu gets a first round pick from anyone but wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. I also don't think a team that is 10th and 1.5 games out of 13th in the West and shown serious regression from last season is under any illusions that Aminu is the glue keeping the team together.

Portland Wants to Accumulate Picks, Save Money

Needless to say, it’s extremely unlikely that the Portland Trail Blazers will trade Damian Lillard or CJ McCollum. With that said, the rest of their roster may be available for the right offer.

One general manager said that the team is trying to accumulate draft picks and cut costs. Remember, Portland currently has the second-highest payroll in the league (behind only the Cleveland Cavaliers) at $119 million. And next year, that number jumps to $137 million. That’s not a bad thing when you’re the defending champion Cavs, but it’s a tough pill to swallow when you’re the ninth-best team in the Western Conference standings.

The general manager I spoke to made it clear that Portland would listen to offers for Allen Crabbe, Evan Turner, Al-Farouq Aminu and Ed Davis among others if the potential trades allowed them to stockpile draft picks and save some money.

http://hoopshype.com/2017/02/14/nba-...rade-deadline/

Poor asset and cap management has put the Blazers in a tough place. There are basketball decisions and there are CBA decisions. Portland is going to be a making more of the latter in the next few months I think. They really messed up matching Crabbe and signing Turner.

[lewro]

well, i agree with that much, he would be better in an actual system, especially on offence. But my bigger issue is really that he legitimately can't do any of the things that he was supposed to be able to do defensively in a 1 on 1 scenario.

hes still a positive in orpm and drpm, top 20 in rpm at sf. he's not dmc in atl so its disappointing but im not in a rush to attach an asset to the guy just to dump him.

[KHD]

hes still a positive in orpm and drpm, top 20 in rpm at sf. he's not dmc in atl so its disappointing but im not in a rush to attach an asset to the guy just to dump him.

the same stat that ranked him above kawhi leonard in 2014.

[lewro]

I'm not sure Aminu gets a first round pick from anyone but wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. I also don't think a team that is 10th and 1.5 games out of 13th in the West and shown serious regression from last season is under any illusions that Aminu is the glue keeping the team together.




Poor asset and cap management has put the Blazers in a tough place. There are basketball decisions and there are CBA decisions. Portland is going to be a making more of the latter in the next few months I think. They really messed up matching Crabbe and signing Turner.

i think they will listen but aminu doesnt save them that much to only take back a 50ish pick. stranger things have happened tho. id imagine theyd want a 1st so they could potentially package some of those picks with crabbe and ship him to the nets. who knows? they've had an unorthodox build last summer.
aminu/tucker type is certainly the kind of player id like to add atm.

[lewro]

the same stat that ranked him above kawhi leonard in 2014.

sure the stats are flawed and so is his health which seems to have reduced his performance. im not denying that he is a problem but he's not that big of a negative that i want to trade him with yak or delon, etc just to move him atm.
we havent seen ibaka yet. i want to see how our forward rotations play out and make a decision in the summer.
you're not gonna like it but jv might be the one that gets move to redistribute that money.

[KHD]

sure the stats are flawed and so is his health which seems to have reduced his performance. im not denying that he is a problem but he's not that big of a negative that i want to trade him with yak or delon, etc just to move him atm.
we havent seen ibaka yet. i want to see how our forward rotations play out and make a decision in the summer.
you're not gonna like it but jv might be the one that gets move to redistribute that money.

well, obviously I wouldn't like it. the idea of being stuck with Demarre Carroll at the expense of actually good players is depressing to me. If we have to lose an asset either way i'd rather at the very least unload Hedo 2.0.