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  • How do we fix our defense?

    Right now it's our biggest problem. The offense is fine ranked 4th and we're keeping turnovers to a minimum (3rd least per game) so that's not the issue. We're ranked 24th defensively per basketballreference and 22nd on NBA.com. We've regressed back to our 2014-15 levels on that end.

    How do you guys think we can fix it? Surely it can't all be attributed to losing Biyombo? It seems like our defense at the point of attack has gotten worse though and we're getting absolutely killed in pick and roll situations leading to a lot of easy baskets at the rim or wide open threes when we're forced to scramble.

  • #2
    I'm not sure what's going wrong. I did look up the rim protection stats on stats.nba.com and Jonas is getting crushed in the middle. Of the 54 players defending 5 or more fga at the rim per game, Jonas is 46th in FG% allowed. But I think that is partly because he is left on an island a lot. I know last year we were one of the worst teams in keep-in-front %, meaning we were allowing a lot of penetration from the perimeter. This leaves Jonas having to defend two men at once, and he's never sure whether to leave his man or fully contest the ball handler. That said, his numbers aren't all that different from last year, so something else must be going on.

    I thought maybe it had something to do with the young guys, but our best three DRPM guys are Lucas, Jakob, and Pascal weirdly enough. So basically I'm no help.

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    • #3
      It's starting to become clear. Biz did much more than a lot of people gave him credit for. His offense sucked but he was a great defender for us.

      Our offense is fine (we're like top 4).... It's our defence that's letting us down. Our guards remain the same.....but one thing is missing and that's a defensive Center to clean up the mess. That's the truth.

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      • #4
        special1 wrote: View Post
        It's starting to become clear. Biz did much more than a lot of people gave him credit for. His offense sucked but he was a great defender for us.

        Our offense is fine (we're like top 4).... It's our defence that's letting us down. Our guards remain the same.....but one thing is missing and that's a defensive Center to clean up the mess. That's the truth.
        No Bismack seems to be the most logical assumption. Or maybe it's the departure of the defensive specialist Andy Greer? It could also be DeMar concentrating his all attention on the offensive side, because's he's not the type of player who could sustain such beastly offensive numbers while also giving his all on the defensive side. Or maybe it's Lowry starting to decline physically, or Carroll not fully recovering from his injury (he's also 30 years old btw). There's really tons of possibilities here, or maybe even a combination of few.
        Last edited by omgsomuchpotential; Tue Nov 22nd, 2016, 09:19 AM.

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        • #5
          It could be Greer but Casey was hired as the defensive coach that won the Mavs title. I think you need a rim protector behind Kyle and demar. Bebe is the +- king but we've lost recently when he's played bad or had a baby.

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          • #6
            Everyone's going to point at JV, or the lack of Bismack, but... numbers don't lie.

            JV's DRtg on-court: 108.0. off: 104.0.

            Our defense is clearly better with him off the court. Is there anyone with a bigger spread?

            Powell on-court: 108.4, off: 105.2.

            Better when he's off the court, but we can do better.

            Joseph on-court: 110.4, off: 103.1.

            We're getting warmer.

            DeRozan on-court: 107.4, off: 101.7.

            What about when DeMar and Cory are on the floor together? 117.1 DRtg. DeMar and Powell? 111.6.

            27 2-man units have played more than 100 minutes for us this season. Those are the only 2 over 110 DRtg. When Norm, CoJo and DeRozan are all 3 on the floor(a 21 minute sample size) it's a 133.2 DRtg.
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            • #7
              The thing with JV is that he's not a defensive center. He's an offensive minded center who's underutilized on that end. And if that's what the coach wants it's fine. But it makes for an awful fit between him and this roster. You'd be way better off just trading him for a guy who fits that defensive minded role better, as you're not getting nearly 100% out of JV as it is now.

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              • #8
                omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
                No Bismack seems to be the most logical assumption. Or maybe it's the departure of the defensive specialist Andy Greer? It could also be DeMar concentrating his all attention on the offensive side, because's he's not the type of player who could sustain such beastly offensive numbers while also giving his all on the defensive side. Or maybe it's Lowry starting to decline physically, or Carroll not fully recovering from his injury (he's also 30 years old btw). There's really tons of possibilities here, or maybe even a combination of few.
                Bingo.

                It's what scared me the most in the off-season.
                "My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
                "If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy

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                • #9
                  There have been 68 minutes played this season with JV on the floor, without DeMar out there according to nbawowy.

                  97.0 DRtg in those minutes. 116.3 ORtg.

                  I'm not saying DeMar should be traded to make space for JV. Not saying that at all. I am, however, saying that maybe their minutes should be staggered.
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                  • #10
                    Also, and here's the really fun one:

                    Lowry, DeRozan, Carroll, Patterson and JV has played 48 minutes together, and has a 93.9 DRtg in those minutes.

                    It's Patterson(again).
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                    • #11
                      They're not going to fix it playing against Houston, that's for sure. I bet it will magically look better after they play Mil, Phi and Memphis.
                      Two beer away from being two beers away.

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                      • #12
                        Bioyombo could have helped a bit, but our points in the paint defense is right in the middle.. right at 15th in the league. But having a defense center can help alleviate the stress on the guards to play tighter so that they don't give up as many 3 opportunities.

                        Ultimately though I think this is mostly due to their schedule and this should normalize a bit over the next 10-15 games. I don't think we'll ever get to a top 5 defense, but if we could get into the top 10 that should help for the playoffs.

                        Not sure what's up with CoJo lately but he's not the guy we saw last year. And if we want to move into that top 10 defensive team he's the guy that needs to improve the most in my opinion.

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                        • #13
                          A shooting guard's play on the defensive end isn't going to catapult a defense from top 10 to bottom 10. The suggestion that this is on DeRozan is pretty insane if you ask me. Using small minute samples of particular lineups isn't really going to tell us anything of substance.

                          The Andy Greer point is a good one. I think Casey also struggles to get the team defending at a high level without an extremely mobile rim-protecting big in defense.
                          Last edited by Lupe; Tue Nov 22nd, 2016, 10:08 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Lupe wrote: View Post
                            A shooting guard's play on the defensive end isn't going to catapult a defense from top 10 to bottom 10. The suggestion that this is on DeRozan is pretty insane if you ask me.

                            The Andy Greer point is a good one. I think Casey also struggles to get the team defending at a high level without an extremely mobile rim-protecting big in defense.
                            I really don't understand this idea that a guard can't kill your defense. Offenses are creative nowadays, and can be very good at attacking at the point they want to.

                            If an offense continually manipulates switches to get a bad defensive guard as the player they're attacking, why can't that be the point that hurts the defense?

                            I'm not saying JV is a great rim protector, but why is it on him if he constantly has to play 1v2 in the paint because our guards let their man by and didn't help onto his man?
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                            • #15
                              Do we foul a lot? And do we allow too many 2nd chance opportunities?
                              Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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