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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostHeir Canada made another appearance tonight.
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Seriously though Air Canada was a shit nickname for Vince and this is even worse for Demar. Need to come up with something better.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostJustin Trudeau was at the game?
Seriously though Air Canada was a shit nickname for Vince and this is even worse for Demar. Need to come up with something better.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostJustin Trudeau was at the game?
Seriously though Air Canada was a shit nickname for Vince and this is even worse for Demar. Need to come up with something better.
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http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/tea...TIAL_AST&dir=1
Anyone who thinks the assist numbers are just 'guys missing shots' is horribly wrong.
We're last in potential assists at 31.7/game. Second last is the Jazz at 36/game. The gap between us and the Jazz is bigger than the gap between the Jazz and the Rockets, who are 11th from the bottom.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View Posthttp://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/tea...TIAL_AST&dir=1
Anyone who thinks the assist numbers are just 'guys missing shots' is horribly wrong.
We're last in potential assists at 31.7/game. Second last is the Jazz at 36/game. The gap between us and the Jazz is bigger than the gap between the Jazz and the Rockets, who are 11th from the bottom.
It wasn't true then ... and it's still not true.
That gap thing though is alarming."My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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Just Is wrote: View PostI thought this argument and justification was killed last year in regards to "guys missing shots" and our assist numbers.
It wasn't true then ... and it's still not true.
That gap thing though is alarming.
But yes, the offensive system is not designed to generate assisted baskets.
But one warning - if the entire offence was built on DD coming around screens and taking tough catch and shoot long two's, we'd lead the league in potential assists (and maybe assists, even). We'd just score a lot less. It's not a be-all-end-all. Sure, I'd like some more ball movement via better recognition of failed scoring drives. But I actually like the concept behind the offence - take two elite drivers, have them work off of an elite screener and have a couple spot up shooters outside the arc. Hopefully the team can tune up throughout the year to use the screener and shooters more as defences lock onto the driving guards.
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DanH wrote: View PostPart of that gap is built on our pace, which is 5th slowest in the league.
But yes, the offensive system is not designed to generate assisted baskets.
But one warning - if the entire offence was built on DD coming around screens and taking tough catch and shoot long two's, we'd lead the league in potential assists (and maybe assists, even). We'd just score a lot less. It's not a be-all-end-all. Sure, I'd like some more ball movement via better recognition of failed scoring drives. But I actually like the concept behind the offence - take two elite drivers, have them work off of an elite screener and have a couple spot up shooters outside the arc. Hopefully the team can tune up throughout the year to use the screener and shooters more as defences lock onto the driving guards.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostMy concern is that if we get into the playoffs and find ourselves once again facing a defense designed to stop Lowry and DeMar, the other guys might not be ready to pick up the slack because they spent 6 months of the regular season not being asked to contribute on that end on a regular basis.
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DanH wrote: View PostAnd that's fair. But the system shouldn't change in the playoffs. You still be running the same stuff, attacking the same way - you just need your star players to make better decisions with the ball. The disaster from DeRozan (Lowry just went cold) last spring was not an issue of the system not being able to accommodate that. It was a matter of DeRozan not using the outlets the system provides him. Other players were open, as they should be when one of our stars gets that much attention. He just crapped the bed. Hopefully he won't again. Ultimately, there's not much reason to have him on the team if you aren't going to rely on him to initiate offence. It's on him to learn when and how to pass when the defence takes away his primary options.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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DanH wrote: View PostAnd that's fair. But the system shouldn't change in the playoffs. You still be running the same stuff, attacking the same way - you just need your star players to make better decisions with the ball. The disaster from DeRozan (Lowry just went cold) last spring was not an issue of the system not being able to accommodate that. It was a matter of DeRozan not using the outlets the system provides him. Other players were open, as they should be when one of our stars gets that much attention. He just crapped the bed. Hopefully he won't again. Ultimately, there's not much reason to have him on the team if you aren't going to rely on him to initiate offence. It's on him to learn when and how to pass when the defence takes away his primary options.
Talking about the lack of assists is basically beating a dead horse at this point. I've come to accept that we're not gonna be the Spurs or a pretty euro league team. Early in the year we need more out of Patterson, and to a lesser extent Ross. They don't look accurate right now. #freenorm IMO he should have all of Ross minutes but its a seniority thing I guess9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Barolt wrote: View PostMy concern is that if we get into the playoffs and find ourselves once again facing a defense designed to stop Lowry and DeMar, the other guys might not be ready to pick up the slack because they spent 6 months of the regular season not being asked to contribute on that end on a regular basis.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostBy not ready do you mean them missing open shot?
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Go back and look through the passing and potential assist numbers. Those 'open shots' you think they're missing aren't happening all that often.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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