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Rudy Bargnani wrote: View PostThe thing is if you trade those guys a player has to come back in the trade generally. But let's assume you move all those guys for future picks.
Using rough numbers, that would bring the payroll from about 80 mill to about 40 mill. If you give give 30 mill to Lowry, 20 mill to Ibaka, and 10 mill to Tucker we're capped out basically. I didn't check exact salaries but to your question even if we dump all those guys for nothing we don't have much space if we want to keep Lowry/Ibaka/Tucker
Why do we need to sign our guys first? What if we just signed (whoever we target) first and then signed our guys to go over the cap?
Having asked those questions, I have no idea with regards to the cap holds of our players.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by special1; Fri May 19, 2017, 08:33 PM.
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When a GM makes any trade that benefits their team, they're a "decent" GM. When they've pulled off a deal that will be forever considered as a "I can't believe the other guys were stupid enough to..." type of trade, they are BRILLIANT. If we're to treat Masai as a genius for trading Bargnani for what we got, and Gay for what we got, then Ainge is in the same territory with his deals. And the results show it. Boston is on its way up while we are on the way down.your pal,
ebrian
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special1 wrote: View PostQuick question.....
Why do we need to sign our guys first? What if we just signed (whoever we target) first and then signed our guys to go over the cap?
Having asked those questions, I have no idea with regards to the cap holds of our players.
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I'll defer to Dan but cap holds are like 18 for each of Lowry and Ibaka and 10 for PJ I think. So in the oringal posters example of getting us down to 40 mill the cap holds of those 3 would bring us to 86. So like 15 million bucks leftover. Not much, especially when we just dumped the entire bench and 2 starters for nothing.
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LJ2 wrote: View Post
So give me some ideas on what you think Masai can pull of this off season. How can we improve next season?
Retain Lowry, Ibaka, DeRozan, Powell & Tucker. Change the coach.
Unload JV, Cojo, Patterson & Carrol (packaged with the draft pick if need be), and Tucker if necessary, to make room to sign JJ Redick & Joe Ingles (or Danilo Gallinari).
On summer camp make the sole job of the following players to hone their already blossoming 3-point stroke: Powell, Fred, Tucker.
Also on summer camp, have Wright start to develop a passable, confident 3 (He won't survive on this league as a Point Guard without one) and have DeRozan almost exclusively work on Defence.
In the fall:
PG: Lowry/Fred/Wright
SG: DeRozan/Redick/Powell
SF: Ingles (or Galinari)/Tucker
PF: Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno
C: Poeltl/Nogueira
There are 13 players above. Complete the roster with the draft pick (though we might have to give it up to unload Carrol), and have Heslip fill the new "Hybrid" 15th man (that straddles the D-league and the main club)
Of course the above is much, much easier said than done and a bit of a pipe dream, but imo the essence of the off-season should be this: Change the coach, unload salary (starting with poor fit role players), acquire high quality shooters so we're not outscored by 100+ from deep again next year against the Cavs.Last edited by inthepaint; Sat May 20, 2017, 03:26 PM.
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inthepaint wrote: View PostPersonally, I'd like to see this:
Retain Lowry, Ibaka, DeRozan, Powell & Tucker. Change the coach.
Unload JV, Cojo, Patterson & Carrol (packaged with the draft pick if need be), and Tucker if necessary, to make room to sign JJ Redick & Joe Ingles (or Danilo Gallinari).
On summer camp make the sole job of the following players to hone their already blossoming 3-point stroke: Powell, Fred, Tucker.
Also on summer camp, have Wright start to develop a passable, confident 3 (He won't survive on this league as a Point Guard without one) and have DeRozan almost exclusively work on Defence.
In the fall:
PG: Lowry/Fred/Wright
SG: DeRozan/Redick/Powell
SF: Ingles (or Galinari)/Tucker
PF: Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno
C: Poeltl/Nogueira
There are 13 players above. Complete the roster with the draft pick (though we might have to give it up to unload Carrol), and have Heslip fill the new "Hybrid" 15th man (that straddles the D-league and the main club)
Of course the above is much, much easier said than done and a bit of a pipe dream, but imo the essence of the off-season should be this: Change the coach, unload salary (starting with poor fit role players), acquire high quality shooters so we're not outscored by 100+ from deep again next year against the Cavs.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostWe are not the Nets, with nary a development asset in sight, we've got the youth movement to make it work in the long term.
We have more prospects right now but the gap in our stables is narrowing, and will probably flip over by 2019.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostYeah Boston is poised to potentially dethrone the Cav's in the next few years. As much as I disliked Ainge the player, he's been a terrific GM thus far.
So give me some ideas on what you think Masai can pull of this off season. How can we improve next season?
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rightsideup wrote: View Postboston can still make some wrong moves or have injuries that do not help. People forget the chest injuries Horford has had in the past. They do have cap space though.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostCaris Levert looks to have higher upside than any of our prospects. RHJ is decent and they have the same number of first round picks as we do going forward. They have two this year and next year is the last year they give one away to Boston.
We have more prospects right now but the gap in our stables is narrowing, and will probably flip over by 2019.
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostHoping other teams make wrong moves or have injuries isn't really a plan, is it?
Yeah, Boston might be really good next year, or they may not. Raps need to do their own thing.
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