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  • Hotshot
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    ebrian wrote: View Post
    Can't we include Front Office guys? Colangelo responsible for most of the Raptors I hated.
    I disliked his moves but I never "hated" Colangelo. Not a great GM but as President he did alright.

    However the fat useless guy he brought with him from Italy sucked big time!!

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  • c-troop
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    Dwane Casey?

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  • Triplethreat89
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    I also really hated Alanjo Mourning..
    The guy refused to play single game for Raptors
    He really did not try to hide how he looked down on the Raptors as an organiazation

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  • ebrian
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    Can't we include Front Office guys? Colangelo responsible for most of the Raptors I hated.

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  • Hotshot
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    Cody73 wrote: View Post
    No way. My Top 3:

    1. Lowry. Easily the best PG we've ever had in terms of play. Do I really need to say more?

    2. Damon. Looking at tape, I honestly feel Mighty Mouse could've been amazing had it not been for his trade. I think the trade to Portland hurt him & injuries didn't help. Had he stayed here & stayed healthy, he would be better remembered.

    3. I'm ready for the hate on this pick, but this one is personal. Jarret Jack. That 2009-10 season was an ugly one, but Jack was a bright spot in my eyes. The guy played with heart, hustle & IMO should've been the guy we stuck with over Jose. When we traded him.... I was pissed. You trade a established PG for Jerryd Bayless & a washed up Peja Stojakovic. WHY? During Jack's season with Golden State, I felt the guy should've won 6MOTY.

    Also.... as for the two guys you brought up... Mike James couldn't play D & Alston wasn't better than Williams. I get why people love Boogie, I just don't get it.
    If you do not have Jose Calderon either in your top 3 then your rankings are astonishingly flawed.

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  • minks77
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    Cody73 wrote: View Post
    The guy played with heart, hustle
    If those are two of your top reasons for loving a very mediocre Jarrett Jack (who was brought in specifically because of his connection to CB4) then I don't get why you don't get Alvin the same credit. He came to this team at a time when bums like Kenny Anderson wouldn't, worked his ASS off to become a player, took the starters spot from Mark Jackson and became the heart and soul of a Raptors team that should've been lead by Mr Soft-as-Charmin Vince Carter. He defended with size, intelligence and grit, fought through injuries that would've ended Vince and always rapped the city well. He also hit what, until recently, was the biggest shot in Raptor history, downing the Knicks at MSG in the 5th game and did a great job on H20, the leagues first 100 million dollar man. The following year he and AD rallied the troops to go 12-14 and were a chris Childs brain fart from beating the pistons after VC went down.

    He wasn't flashy, his box scores were fugly. He was the heart and soul of a team and franchise too often without either.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    Hotshot wrote: View Post
    Oakley hated everybody, except maybe Michael Jordan. Oakley provided us with toughness, defense, rebounding and he was a threat from the 3 point line. The Raptors didn't have such a player until this season when PJ Tucker arrived and he quickly became fan favorite for a reason.

    Camby was an injured prone player that we nicknamed him "Cotton Camby". His career was subpar throughout his 20's and he somehow started to play well in his late 20's. It was the right call to trade that bum to New York (Actually the right call was to draft Shareef Abdur Rahim instead on draft night!).
    That move epitomized GG's sacrifice-the-future-for-a-modicum-of-toughness-in-the-present strategy.

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  • Cody73
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    Hotshot wrote: View Post
    Williams was a complimentary PG to Vince Carter. He was a solid defender, solid team player, he could knock the open jumper, he rarely turned over the ball, a hard worker and didn't try to play above his abilities. Stats do not tell the whole story on Alvin Williams, if that's the case then in your mind Mike James or Rafer Alston were better.

    Top 3 Point guards in Raptors history.
    No way. My Top 3:

    1. Lowry. Easily the best PG we've ever had in terms of play. Do I really need to say more?

    2. Damon. Looking at tape, I honestly feel Mighty Mouse could've been amazing had it not been for his trade. I think the trade to Portland hurt him & injuries didn't help. Had he stayed here & stayed healthy, he would be better remembered.

    3. I'm ready for the hate on this pick, but this one is personal. Jarret Jack. That 2009-10 season was an ugly one, but Jack was a bright spot in my eyes. The guy played with heart, hustle & IMO should've been the guy we stuck with over Jose. When we traded him.... I was pissed. You trade a established PG for Jerryd Bayless & a washed up Peja Stojakovic. WHY? During Jack's season with Golden State, I felt the guy should've won 6MOTY.

    Also.... as for the two guys you brought up... Mike James couldn't play D & Alston wasn't better than Williams. I get why people love Boogie, I just don't get it.

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  • Hotshot
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    SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
    I know Oakley provided us with something we were missing, but he's still one of my most hated, maybe because he's so revered by others. To give up on Camby, so early, for that horrendous jump-shot...
    Oakley hated everybody, except maybe Michael Jordan. Oakley provided us with toughness, defense, rebounding and he was a threat from the 3 point line. The Raptors didn't have such a player until this season when PJ Tucker arrived and he quickly became fan favorite for a reason.

    Camby was an injured prone player that we nicknamed him "Cotton Camby". His career was subpar throughout his 20's and he somehow started to play well in his late 20's. It was the right call to trade that bum to New York (Actually the right call was to draft Shareef Abdur Rahim instead on draft night!).

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  • Hotshot
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    Cody73 wrote: View Post
    Boogie was just that one guy that sat on the roster for years & was never anything special in my eyes. I heard how good of a person he was, but I felt the guy was always overrated by fans.

    Take a good look at Williams stats.... how did this guy last so long on our roster?
    Williams was a complimentary PG to Vince Carter. He was a solid defender, solid team player, he could knock the open jumper, he rarely turned over the ball, a hard worker and didn't try to play above his abilities. Stats do not tell the whole story on Alvin Williams, if that's the case then in your mind Mike James or Rafer Alston were better.

    Top 3 Point guards in Raptors history.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    I know Oakley provided us with something we were missing, but he's still one of my most hated, maybe because he's so revered by others. To give up on Camby, so early, for that horrendous jump-shot...

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  • LJ2
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    Alonzo Morning. He gave us the Steve Francais treatment and refused to play for us which puts him at the top of the most hated list for me.

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  • rightsideup
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    we have had some great to very good players that just did not come to us at a productive stage of there career like the dream. some like Oakley did the opposite and had very good years at an advanced age but the expectations were different. It's kind of interesting for everyone who hates the stars that have left like vince, tracy and bosh we have people who want deebo and lowry out the door.

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  • Cody73
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    Mack North wrote: View Post
    Yea, not sure how you put Boogie in there with those scrubs, Cody?
    This is why:

    I've said before that when I was very little, I would go to games with my Uncle (From 2001 to 2006, I would go to about 10 games a year).

    Boogie was just that one guy that sat on the roster for years & was never anything special in my eyes. I heard how good of a person he was, but I felt the guy was always overrated by fans.

    Take a good look at Williams stats.... how did this guy last so long on our roster?

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  • DanH
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    Some of these were just horribly misused, but my short list (particularly of late - in the Vince era I was young and more casual and rarely really hated a player):

    Bargs
    Hedo
    Salmons
    Vasquez
    Scola
    Araujo

    Those all seem obvious and don't need reasons. Then:

    Milt Palacio - unmatched in his ability to miss layups. No more infuriating play in sports than a Palacio layup attempt. DeMarre Carroll is in danger of entering this territory and gets an honourable mention here for just that reason.

    Chris Childs - for screwing up that playoff-series-deciding play where the Raptors were down three and Childs thought they were down 4. This was my first true heartbreak as a maturing Raptors fan, with the true Vince heyday coming when a missed shot was just a missed shot in my mind.

    Alan Anderson - man alive was this guy not fun to watch, especially in his 2nd season here. The epitome of the "vet" player who got minutes over better, younger players. Towards the end, couldn't hit a three (but took a load anyway - heck, he somehow carried a mid-20's usage rate), couldn't defend, and was playing heavy minutes over a promising Terrence Ross in a season where watching young guys play was basically all we had.

    Rasual Butler - as infuriating as Anderson was, no one better encapsulates the Raptors' horrific SF history than Rasual Butler. This guy somehow started 14 games for the 2011-12 Raptors (played in 34 in total) and put up this tremendous line: 3.2 points, 1.9 rebounds, 0.6 assists, 31% FG%, 27% 3PT%. Played almost 500 minutes for the Raps (all right at the start of the year as a key rotation member helping the team to a 10-24 record) and posted -0.2 WS and -0.4 VORP. Every minute watching him play was hell, and he's the main reason I tend to cut Carroll some slack - our SF woes have been far, far worse than they are now, regardless of the low value of Carroll's contract.

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