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  • planetmars
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    Maury wrote: View Post

    Totally agree. I don't mind him struggling in bits to try and advance his game. It won't be the best for the team this year, but long term he's gotta try and expand his game. The only way he's doing that is if he is given a few opportunities in real game scenarios. He shouldn't be punished for not doing very well though, because everyone should know it won't work that well for a while. Really don't like that he was benched. Why TF is McCaw starting over him? I'm the biggest NN supporter there is, but his infatuation for McCaw is past Fred levels. It's astronomical.
    I think it's more about McCaw's role than how good he is. McCaw can run an offense. Not great at it, but the only other guy on the team that isn't starting that can do that comfortably is TD. So it's really more a shame that McCaw gets minutes over TD than him getting minutes over someone like OG.

    It's hard to teach a new offense mid way through a season. Not a lot of practices between games. Nurse had Pascal being a main offensive creator with Fred and Lowry on the court. When Lowry went down, Norm became a starter because he can handle the ball in spurts.

    It's easier to play a role than to create a new offense. And Nurse prefers to have multiple creators on the floor at the same time.

    OG was actually pretty bad in December. I think moving RHJ up was a good move. OG still ended up with more minutes than RHJ (30 vs 28). McCaw only played 22 minutes despite starting.

    To really know if Nurse has an infatuation would be to wait for Pascal and Norm to get healthy. If McCaw still ends up averaging about 20 minutes a game with a healthy line than I'd be wondering what the hell was happening too.

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  • Maury
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    Shredder wrote: View Post
    I think we are seeing just another example that OG shines as a 4 or 5th option on the floor not 2nd or 3rd. We saw it in his rookie season, we saw early this year. He plays better when he can hide in the shadows.

    I love the kid. He's a brute. He's a bull in a china shop and he is finishing better than expected, just like Paskal last year. He might be able to move into a 2nd or 3rd option eventually but right now he's not ready to carry that load.
    Totally agree. I don't mind him struggling in bits to try and advance his game. It won't be the best for the team this year, but long term he's gotta try and expand his game. The only way he's doing that is if he is given a few opportunities in real game scenarios. He shouldn't be punished for not doing very well though, because everyone should know it won't work that well for a while. Really don't like that he was benched. Why TF is McCaw starting over him? I'm the biggest NN supporter there is, but his infatuation for McCaw is past Fred levels. It's astronomical.

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  • Shredder
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    I think we are seeing just another example that OG shines as a 4 or 5th option on the floor not 2nd or 3rd. We saw it in his rookie season, we saw early this year. He plays better when he can hide in the shadows.

    I love the kid. He's a brute. He's a bull in a china shop and he is finishing better than expected, just like Paskal last year. He might be able to move into a 2nd or 3rd option eventually but right now he's not ready to carry that load.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    Looked a little heavy on his feet last night, has been taking a lot of contact this year so hopefully he can get some bounce back in his step in 2020.

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  • Dr Hannibal Lecter
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    OG gotta pick it up,not sure what's going on with him,I think his been hanging out 2 much with Rondae Hollis-Jefferson..bad influence, time for u 2 pick it up. At the start the season,played great,but his play has gone down. Either u elevate ure game or u gonna b just another guy off the bench..I still believe in you,but u can't b the same as last year or the year before,time 2 step up..I'm huge fan of his,but haven't been liking his game lately.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    Either way he's playing pretty darn well. He looks way better on his finishing step than he used to - being able to stretch out (at least somewhat) gracefully for the layup a la Pascal. Other times he just rumbles into the lane, gathers, and powers up over defenders.

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  • DanH
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post
    OG currently 2nd league-wide in PIPM improvement for last year to this year ( 1st is Luka Doncic, and 3rd is Devonte Graham who's been in the MIP conversion). The man is PIPM'ing.
    A good demonstration of how impact stats are reliant on player roles. He had very nice impact stats in his first year (as a low usage starter), had his impact collapse last year coming off the bench and having to create more and having less value defending lesser opposing players, and has rebounded nicely this year back in his proper role. There is actual development in there too but it's not just that.

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  • inthepaint
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    OG currently 2nd league-wide in PIPM improvement for last year to this year ( 1st is Luka Doncic, and 3rd is Devonte Graham who's been in the MIP conversion). The man is PIPM'ing.

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  • Maury
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    I'd love to see him take a few more jumpers off the dribble because the few times he's done it it has looked so much smoother than I thought it would ever be for him. His handle, while still pretty sloppy, is vastly improved and he can get into the lane off of sheer athleticism, and he's finishing so much better than even last year. Let OG be the ball handler in the PNR once in a while! These skills must be developed.

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  • nba_4_life
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    Here is a great breakdown of OG game, focusing on the defensive end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNuViAbI_Xo

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  • bertarapsfan
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    Ya we need to start giving him more love. He was the most likely guy to get shit on if he or the team struggled. He has came out and took another step we need to start upping the praise for O.G

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  • G__Deane
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    I've always been a big supporter of OG but he's making me a true believer so far this season.
    I'm excited that if he continues to be and develops into more than just a solid 3 and D guy, that an elite player might take into consideration OG as part of the reason to sign on here with Siakam and FVV.....

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    He's already starting to get into the lane way better than years past, and once he's in there...watch out!

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  • S.R.
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    Puffer wrote: View Post

    He is always 100 per cent reliable on defense. Sure, makes the odd mistake, but not out of stupidity, simply because you can't always know what the other player is going to do. That's like random noise. RHJ seems to have a great nose for defense as well. Actually, the list of heads up defenders on this team is astounding. Are there any comparables, in terms of the number of heads up defensive players in the league?
    What Masai seems to have learned from Bryan Colangelo's tutelage is - whatever BC did, do the opposite of that:

    BC - sign established, overpriced FA's with overvalued offensive skills, subpar defence, questionable work ethics, and zero upside
    MU - stock the cupboards with young, cheap, long, athletic, high motor, hard working guys with tons of upside

    Same with Nick Nurse:

    Dwane Casey - adjustments, lol
    Nick Nurse - alright guys, here's how we're going to stop ________ (Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/Lebron James/Joel Embiid) tonight

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  • Puffer
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post
    What an amazing defender. Hedges so well, always on the right spot, incredible lateral quicks. I noticed this year that opposing teams trying to run a pick'n roll around him often runs into trouble, doesn't matter if he's on the guard or on the big initially, he'll find a way to disturb it.
    He is always 100 per cent reliable on defense. Sure, makes the odd mistake, but not out of stupidity, simply because you can't always know what the other player is going to do. That's like random noise. RHJ seems to have a great nose for defense as well. Actually, the list of heads up defenders on this team is astounding. Are there any comparables, in terms of the number of heads up defensive players in the league?

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