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  • Maury
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post


    Workout video season begins. Pascal is the king of getting the fanbase hyped for improvment. Those pull up 3s look nice. His stroke looks more clean and fluid in this vid
    I was waiting for someone to post this. I don't really know how to do it on my phone. I think the pull-up has to be faster and harder. He's kind of walking into it, he has to sell the drive a bit better. The stroke looks good though, and obviously if he can continue to improve the handle that would be great.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    Workout video season begins. Pascal is the king of getting the fanbase hyped for improvment. Those pull up 3s look nice. His stroke looks more clean and fluid in this vid

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  • bertarapsfan
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    Joey wrote: View Post

    Touche. But Masai took that page out of Colangelo's book. All about the medium risk, high reward extensions.
    ya he also has shown that he likes to do the extention in the fall like he did with t Ross and jonas. so maybe we see him try to extend pascal in October. the t Ross extention was smart as we were able to move him for Ibaka

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  • Joey
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

    Correct me if im wrong but i thought it was colangelo who gave derozen that extention? At the time everyone thought it was an overpay.
    Touche. But Masai took that page out of Colangelo's book. All about the medium risk, high reward extensions.

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  • DanH
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

    Correct me if im wrong but i thought it was colangelo who gave derozen that extention? At the time everyone thought it was an overpay.
    Yep, that was Colangelo. It proved to be bad in its own way, as Colangelo gave him a player option and he ended up getting his big raise early.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    Joey wrote: View Post

    Masai is the master of these sorts of Contracts. Derozan extended for 4 years and $40M turned out to be an absolute steal; Jonas' extension turned out to worth it; FVV earned his extension; Norm perhaps not quite there but his contract also isn't absurd... I don't know what the number ends up being, but I expect we'll be pleased, based on Masai's track record.
    Correct me if im wrong but i thought it was colangelo who gave derozen that extention? At the time everyone thought it was an overpay.

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  • DanH
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    saints91 wrote: View Post
    The only point in resigning this season is if you get a discount. He’s a restricted free agent next year. We’ll match any offer at that time.

    I’m hoping 5 years for 125M. Is that low balling?
    This is about what I'd be hoping to get him on. But mostly summer 2021 is where we will be tight for cap space, so if we can get that season at 25M, we can let the rest of the contract rise as much as it can to increase total money committed.

    So:

    27.17M
    25M
    27.17M
    29.34M
    31.51M (PO)

    That's 5/140M.

    Obviously lower is better, but I'd be pretty pleased with that sort of contract.

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  • Jclaw
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    NeedTristanThompson wrote: View Post
    2015-16 Giannis stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 35.3 6.4 12.7 .506 0.4 1.4 .257 6.1 11.3 .537 .520 3.7 5.1 .724 1.4 6.2 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 2.6 3.2 16.9
    2018-19 Pascal stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 31.9 6.5 11.8 .549 1.0 2.7 .369 5.5 9.1 .602 .591 3.0 3.8 .785 1.6 5.3 6.9 3.1 0.9 0.7 1.9 3.0 16.9
    Notice any similarities? And Pascal can already shoot. Yes they're roughly the same age unfortunately, but their third year seasons don't look so far apart and Pascal already has a good coach so maybe with that boost... MVP 2020-21 if not this upcoming season?!

    Am I missing something?! Pascal Siakam's wingspan is 2.22 meters, Giannis' is 2.21, but Giannis is 2.11 meters tall while Pascal is 2.06.

    Pascal is as hard a worker as Giannis if not an even harder worker. And while Giannis started playing basketball in 2007, Pascal only started in 2012... so Pascal's closed the gap from 5 years to 3! And he did everything he did last year as a number 2/3 option last year, not even the number one on the team! Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    that's optimistic but Giannis transformed his body into a machine in the years that followed. I think Pascal doesn't have as much room to grow physically

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  • LJ2
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    NeedTristanThompson wrote: View Post
    2015-16 Giannis stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF Age
    80 79 35.3 6.4 12.7 .506 0.4 1.4 .257 6.1 11.3 .537 .520 3.7 5.1 .724 1.4 6.2 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 2.6 3.2 16.9
    2018-19 Pascal stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 31.9 6.5 11.8 .549 1.0 2.7 .369 5.5 9.1 .602 .591 3.0 3.8 .785 1.6 5.3 6.9 3.1 0.9 0.7 1.9 3.0 16.9
    Notice any similarities? And Pascal can already shoot. Yes they're roughly the same age unfortunately, but their third year seasons don't look so far apart and Pascal already has a good coach so maybe with that boost... MVP 2020-21 if not this upcoming season?!

    Am I missing something?! Pascal Siakam's wingspan is 2.22 meters, Giannis' is 2.21, but Giannis is 2.11 meters tall while Pascal is 2.06.

    Pascal is as hard a worker as Giannis if not an even harder worker. And while Giannis started playing basketball in 2007, Pascal only started in 2012... so Pascal's closed the gap from 5 years to 3! And he did everything he did last year as a number 2/3 option last year, not even the number one on the team! Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    There are a lot of similarities. The one think about Giannis that stands out to me is his attitude. He came into the league with that mean/anger/I'm the best player swagger which drives him. Pascal is generally all smiles and good will towards all.

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  • Joey
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    saints91 wrote: View Post

    That’s actually pretty cool. He’s trending the right way, we just don’t know what the ceiling is. Do you pay him based on this season or what he might be in the future? I would think somewhere in between.
    Masai is the master of these sorts of Contracts. Derozan extended for 4 years and $40M turned out to be an absolute steal; Jonas' extension turned out to worth it; FVV earned his extension; Norm perhaps not quite there but his contract also isn't absurd... I don't know what the number ends up being, but I expect we'll be pleased, based on Masai's track record.

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  • saints91
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    NeedTristanThompson wrote: View Post
    Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    That’s actually pretty cool. He’s trending the right way, we just don’t know what the ceiling is. Do you pay him based on this season or what he might be in the future? I would think somewhere in between.

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  • saints91
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    The only point in resigning this season is if you get a discount. He’s a restricted free agent next year. We’ll match any offer at that time.

    I’m hoping 5 years for 125M. Is that low balling?

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  • NeedTristanThompson
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    2015-16 Giannis stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 35.3 6.4 12.7 .506 0.4 1.4 .257 6.1 11.3 .537 .520 3.7 5.1 .724 1.4 6.2 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 2.6 3.2 16.9
    2018-19 Pascal stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 31.9 6.5 11.8 .549 1.0 2.7 .369 5.5 9.1 .602 .591 3.0 3.8 .785 1.6 5.3 6.9 3.1 0.9 0.7 1.9 3.0 16.9
    Notice any similarities? And Pascal can already shoot. Yes they're roughly the same age unfortunately, but their third year seasons don't look so far apart and Pascal already has a good coach so maybe with that boost... MVP 2020-21 if not this upcoming season?!

    Am I missing something?! Pascal Siakam's wingspan is 2.22 meters, Giannis' is 2.21, but Giannis is 2.11 meters tall while Pascal is 2.06.

    Pascal is as hard a worker as Giannis if not an even harder worker. And while Giannis started playing basketball in 2007, Pascal only started in 2012... so Pascal's closed the gap from 5 years to 3! And he did everything he did last year as a number 2/3 option last year, not even the number one on the team! Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    Last edited by NeedTristanThompson; Tue Jul 9th, 2019, 05:00 PM.

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  • saints91
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    How much would you pay Siakam right now is you were to extend him?

    I think we have to be very careful with how
    much we’re giving him.

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  • Maury
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    Pascals biggest jump will come if he can get a consistent mid range/ step back jumper. I think that would be his best way to become ungauradable rather then model his game around giannis style. Pascal is so dangerous driving to the rim. Defender will give him space to defend the drive so if he could hit the mid range or fake a drive then hit the step back jumper no one would be able to guard him. If you play him loose he hits the jumper if you get tight on him pascal can drive on you and hit you with the spin move. Add an improved 3 pt shot and i could see him averaging 25 pts a game.
    Off the dribble pull-up will be important. Stop on a dime and take the mid-range like Kawhi did.

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