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  • saints91
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    NeedTristanThompson wrote: View Post
    Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    That’s actually pretty cool. He’s trending the right way, we just don’t know what the ceiling is. Do you pay him based on this season or what he might be in the future? I would think somewhere in between.

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  • saints91
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    The only point in resigning this season is if you get a discount. He’s a restricted free agent next year. We’ll match any offer at that time.

    I’m hoping 5 years for 125M. Is that low balling?

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  • NeedTristanThompson
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    2015-16 Giannis stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 35.3 6.4 12.7 .506 0.4 1.4 .257 6.1 11.3 .537 .520 3.7 5.1 .724 1.4 6.2 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 2.6 3.2 16.9
    2018-19 Pascal stats:
    G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    80 79 31.9 6.5 11.8 .549 1.0 2.7 .369 5.5 9.1 .602 .591 3.0 3.8 .785 1.6 5.3 6.9 3.1 0.9 0.7 1.9 3.0 16.9
    Notice any similarities? And Pascal can already shoot. Yes they're roughly the same age unfortunately, but their third year seasons don't look so far apart and Pascal already has a good coach so maybe with that boost... MVP 2020-21 if not this upcoming season?!

    Am I missing something?! Pascal Siakam's wingspan is 2.22 meters, Giannis' is 2.21, but Giannis is 2.11 meters tall while Pascal is 2.06.

    Pascal is as hard a worker as Giannis if not an even harder worker. And while Giannis started playing basketball in 2007, Pascal only started in 2012... so Pascal's closed the gap from 5 years to 3! And he did everything he did last year as a number 2/3 option last year, not even the number one on the team! Here's to Pascal Ltd!!
    Last edited by NeedTristanThompson; Tue Jul 9th, 2019, 04:00 PM.

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  • saints91
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    How much would you pay Siakam right now is you were to extend him?

    I think we have to be very careful with how
    much we’re giving him.

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  • Maury
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    Pascals biggest jump will come if he can get a consistent mid range/ step back jumper. I think that would be his best way to become ungauradable rather then model his game around giannis style. Pascal is so dangerous driving to the rim. Defender will give him space to defend the drive so if he could hit the mid range or fake a drive then hit the step back jumper no one would be able to guard him. If you play him loose he hits the jumper if you get tight on him pascal can drive on you and hit you with the spin move. Add an improved 3 pt shot and i could see him averaging 25 pts a game.
    Off the dribble pull-up will be important. Stop on a dime and take the mid-range like Kawhi did.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    Pascals biggest jump will come if he can get a consistent mid range/ step back jumper. I think that would be his best way to become ungauradable rather then model his game around giannis style. Pascal is so dangerous driving to the rim. Defender will give him space to defend the drive so if he could hit the mid range or fake a drive then hit the step back jumper no one would be able to guard him. If you play him loose he hits the jumper if you get tight on him pascal can drive on you and hit you with the spin move. Add an improved 3 pt shot and i could see him averaging 25 pts a game.

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  • Puffer
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    ...Pascal needs to get a lot stronger without gaining weight that hinders his athleticism/speed and Masai needs to get more shooters around him.
    Actually not too hard to get stronger without gaining a lot of weight. Getting stronger while adding (muscle) bulk is hard. Mind you, Pascal is already at a very low body weight fat %. And adding some weight would help him play through contact. He could add 10 - 15 pounds with out significantly hurting his speed, (think Ben Johnson, Donovan Bailey) while significantly helping his finishing ability. 15 extra pounds moving at the speed he plays at adds lots of momentum. Players would bounce off of him instead of the other way around.

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  • LJ2
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    Actually, it's Giannis' game I would like to see Pascal emulate. He has a similar quickness and reach advantage Giannis has on his defenders albeit not the same length. Pascal needs to get a lot stronger without gaining weight that hinders his athleticism/speed and Masai needs to get more shooters around him.

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  • Puffer
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    golden wrote: View Post
    ...That playoff experience is going to make our young guys so much better against regular season teams this year.

    Spicy Jordan!
    Great point. I like the way both Fred and Spicy came through at the end. They both suffered through real dips in their offensive game facing the higher intensity D in the playoffs. And they both found a way to deal with it. Regular season is going to seem like junior varsity to these guys now.

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  • golden
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    Man, I absolutely love this kid, but we need to be prepared to see his efficiency drop as he learns to how be a 1st option. Even as a second option to Kawhi, we saw that ORTG drop in every playoff series when the defense decided to game-plan against him (Philly, Bucks, Warriors). If he's the #1 option, that happens every night in the regular season.Pascal ended up in the corner launching 3's at the end of the clock - partly due to Lowry and Gasol being afraid to shoot and Danny forgetting how to shoot. Not betting against this guy, because his improvement curve is un-precented... Giannis is the only comparison I can think of. That playoff experience is going to make our young guys so much better against regular season teams this year.

    Spicy Jordan!

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  • BadDinosaur
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    Maury wrote: View Post
    Now that we know Pascal is likely taking a leap in the pecking order, what do you guys predict stats-wise for him? Does he make the all-star team? Does he make all-NBA, all-defense? Where does he rank among the league's elite by the end of the year?

    My predictions:

    21ppg, 7 boards, 4 assists, a block and a half and a steal and a half, All-star, 3rd team All-NBA. Definitely top 20, borderline top 15 player.
    I see 25ppg 7rpg and 4apg. We don't have much scoring left, so he'll get around 18 shots per game, if not more. It would be perfect to swap Gasol back for JV. We need scoring.

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  • Maury
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    Now that we know Pascal is likely taking a leap in the pecking order, what do you guys predict stats-wise for him? Does he make the all-star team? Does he make all-NBA, all-defense? Where does he rank among the league's elite by the end of the year?

    My predictions:

    21ppg, 7 boards, 4 assists, a block and a half and a steal and a half, All-star, 3rd team All-NBA. Definitely top 20, borderline top 15 player.

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  • Puffer
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    Pascal needs to work on his midrange shot and the little floaters that he sometimes had great success with. Too many times he rushed a layup because of defensive pressure and had it spill out. He needs to recognize the D when it is there and score from a few feet outside, instead of always hoping to lay it up or slam it home. When the bunnies are there to be had, make sure you get them. He could spend some time watching Serge with his floaters and midrange game. He could boost his scoring average by 3-4 points just by avoiding blockable layups and taking the shots from 6 feet out.

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  • KeonClark
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    Puffer wrote: View Post
    Props to Skywalker for starting this thread;

    "Everything Pascal Siakam
    Mon Aug 14th, 2017, 09:06 PM
    Pascal deserves his own thread as well. For a 27th pick, it's incredible that we can basically pencil him in for significant production with the 2nd unit this year. He's one of the best open court rim runners in the league, has a motor that won't quit, and comes across as a first class teammate/young man. The big question is whether he can be an impact defender in just his 2nd season.

    He doesn't get enough talk."

    Two years later, Pascal is getting "enough talk" and it's building.
    Little did we know then he was becoming one of the most unstoppable isolation players in the paint..in the entire world

    kid is a stud, I'm calling 22 pt 7 reb 4 assists next season. Perfect "2nd scorer" production

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  • Puffer
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    Props to Skywalker for starting this thread;

    "Everything Pascal Siakam
    Mon Aug 14th, 2017, 09:06 PM
    Pascal deserves his own thread as well. For a 27th pick, it's incredible that we can basically pencil him in for significant production with the 2nd unit this year. He's one of the best open court rim runners in the league, has a motor that won't quit, and comes across as a first class teammate/young man. The big question is whether he can be an impact defender in just his 2nd season.

    He doesn't get enough talk."

    Two years later, Pascal is getting "enough talk" and it's building.

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