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  • golden wrote: View Post
    Gulp. Pascal makes more than Giannis, Embiid, Beal, Anthony Davis, etc.....

    Just gotta trust Masai on this one.
    damn he's not better than any of those guys
    Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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    • it's a lot of money but that's the market. simmons and murray got 5/170, and i like him better than both those guys (very slightly over simmons). it won't seem like very much if the cap continues to rise. good for pascal!

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      • that's why Pascal was pushing for extension
        Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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        • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

          damn he's not better than any of those guys
          Another way to look at it: Siakam will be paid less than or roughly equal to Mike Conley, Gordon Hayward, Tobias Harris, Khris Middleton, Kemba Walker and Jamal Murray. Beal will be the same once his extension kicks in. Davis will get a monster deal next summer, which will start same time as Pascal’s
          Last edited by 7; Sat Oct 19th, 2019, 03:38 PM.
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          • 007 wrote: View Post

            Another way to look at it: Siakam will be paid less than or roughly equal to Mike Conley, Gordon Hayward, Tobias Harris, Khris Middleton, Kemba Walker and Jamal Murray. Beal will be the same once his extension kicks in. Davis will get a monster deal next summer, which will start same time as Pascal’s
            That's a nice way to look at it but it also makes us look like a small market team. Right now he better live up to his new contract and be a top 10 player or get traded.
            Last edited by RandomGuy; Sat Oct 19th, 2019, 03:53 PM.
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            • Happy for him. Happy with the deal. Secured him for 4 more years and eliminates chance of having to match a 2+1 offer in the summer.

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              • Interesting that it was 4 years and not 5. Wonder if that came from Pascal's camp. It's a 25% max not 30% unless he gets an all-nba honour (let's hope he doesn't lol).

                He doesn't have to be a top 10 player. But a top 25 is realistic. He's older but we get him for his prime years: 25-30. He's an all-star caliber player and doesn't shrink in big moments (was huge in game 1 of the NBA finals).

                He's probably already a top 25 guy in my eyes. He's got work to do to be a top 10 guy and maybe he gets there. But that was his market. Rather have him than not have him, and he's on a tradeable contract unless he gets hurt. So if we go into a tank type of rebuild (which I doubt), he can fetch quite a bit on the open market.

                We're no longer buyers in 2020. Can't really afford anyone good. But that class looks like garbage anyway.

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                • Good for Pascal getting the full max. I'm a bit surprised he didn't even leave a few crumbs on the table as a token gesture to help the franchise, like DeMar did.

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                  • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

                    damn he's not better than any of those guys
                    Jokic, Towns, Gobert,....

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                    • I’m having trouble understanding the reaction to this. What did people think he was going to get paid?

                      This is is basically best case scenario. No fifth year and no player option. It’s a good deal for all parties.

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                      • 007 wrote: View Post

                        Another way to look at it: Siakam will be paid less than or roughly equal to Mike Conley, Gordon Hayward, Tobias Harris, Khris Middleton, Kemba Walker and Jamal Murray. Beal will be the same once his extension kicks in. Davis will get a monster deal next summer, which will start same time as Pascal’s
                        Comparing Pascal to overpaid guys doesn't make me feel better about it. Davis has been a consistently top 5 player for years ... by stats anyway. He deserves a monster deal. Pascal hasn't earned this deal yet. It's a hope and a prayer.

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                        • golden wrote: View Post

                          Jokic, Towns, Gobert,....
                          This is irrelevant. You can only compare contracts to other similarly situated players in terms of years and time of signing. This is absolutely in the market compared to his peers and may even be below market without the fifth year.

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                          • golden wrote: View Post

                            Comparing Pascal to overpaid guys doesn't make me feel better about it. Davis has been a consistently top 5 player for years ... by stats anyway. He deserves a monster deal. Pascal hasn't earned this deal yet. It's a hope and a prayer.
                            Davis got paid as much as he could when he was able to sign his last deal. He will make way more once he signs his next deal. You know this. These deals are not indicators of who the best player is.

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                            • It's market value.

                              The dude had a breakout season last year. He was a key piece to a championship team. He won MIP.

                              He was going to get his bag, either from us or some other team. This way we keep him and keep in good standings with him. Could it backfire? There's always a chance. There's also a chance that he continues to progress, and plays into this contract.

                              Anyone on the list that he is making more, will be making the same or more the next time their contract comes up. Unless they have crappy agents.

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                              • Pascal was one of the best players out of his draft class. So he gets paid for it. It's really that simple.

                                Pascal, Ben and Jamal got the max. Buddy wants one too (but the Kings screwed themselves by signing Harrison Barnes). They are all worth it IMO. It's how the NBA works. Jaylen wants one too but he's under performed.

                                Next year, Tatum will get a max. As will Fox and Mitchell. I wouldn't be surprised if Markkanen or Bam got one as well.

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