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  • LJ2 wrote: View Post
    Bad news about Siakam, but I read he can start on court rehab in a month which isn't bad. Raps really need to get more depth behind him though.
    Read that as well. He can start on-court activities in July, which does make it better.

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    • A.I wrote: View Post

      Read that as well. He can start on-court activities in July, which does make it better.
      Ok that's better than what it sounded like at first
      Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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      • Season starts October 19.
        So depending on how things go, he only stands to miss about the first three weeks.
        Hopefully his recovery goes smoothly.
        Get well soon, Pascal.

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        • "It’s not considered a serious injury – most “civilians” would simply rehab the joint, but in order to protect it against contact from hard screens or hard falls typical in an NBA game, surgery was viewed as the best course.

          The hope is that Siakam will be able to resume individual on-court work as soon as July, but he will be held out of contact for most of the five months rehabilitation time."

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          • LJ2 wrote: View Post
            Bad news about Siakam, but I read he can start on court rehab in a month which isn't bad. Raps really need to get more depth behind him though.
            Barnes (cough)

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            • So according to a Blake Murphy article, the media was told he had some shoulder injury on April 18th. He had missed two games (the 16th and 18th, but played again on April 21). He played 10 straight, averaging about 37 mpg before hurting his shoulder again on May 8th against Memphis. That's when we didn't see him again.

              Did we play him when we were trying to tank? Not that it mattered much.. we won only 3 of those 10 games so it didn't help or hurt the tank.. just more so that we played him, while hurt, in a throw away season.

              Failure on McKechnie here? Or maybe the shoulder injury was minor enough at that point that we just let him play through it.

              Either way could have been a costly decision by our front office / training staff in hindsight.

              Hope he recovers okay and can get some reps in before the season starts up again.

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              • planetmars wrote: View Post
                So according to a Blake Murphy article, the media was told he had some shoulder injury on April 18th. He had missed two games (the 16th and 18th, but played again on April 21). He played 10 straight, averaging about 37 mpg before hurting his shoulder again on May 8th against Memphis. That's when we didn't see him again.

                Did we play him when we were trying to tank? Not that it mattered much.. we won only 3 of those 10 games so it didn't help or hurt the tank.. just more so that we played him, while hurt, in a throw away season.

                Failure on McKechnie here? Or maybe the shoulder injury was minor enough at that point that we just let him play through it.

                Either way could have been a costly decision by our front office / training staff in hindsight.

                Hope he recovers okay and can get some reps in before the season starts up again.
                Considering the team rested everyone else with minor injuries, I doubt Pascal got treated differently. It was probably along the lines of it was extremely minor, he sat a bunch of games due to covid already, so he played through it, re-injured the same spot against the Grizzlies and then they took him out for good.

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                • A.I wrote: View Post

                  Considering the team rested everyone else with minor injuries, I doubt Pascal got treated differently. It was probably along the lines of it was extremely minor, he sat a bunch of games due to covid already, so he played through it, re-injured the same spot against the Grizzlies and then they took him out for good.
                  Nah. Everybody got rest except Pascal. It was weird, which I pointed out a few times. At one point, we played him 40+ minutes on a back to back on the road....in meaningless games... that we were trying to lose. Same with bringing FVV back from injury too soon. The whole strategy was whack.

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                  • im guessing another issue is not being to re-evaluate pascal at 'full strength' again. im assuming this team will be back in toronto but now he's coming off of injury/surgery (despite it not being 'serious' but sidelined for 5 months with no contact is pretty significant).

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                    • I honestly don't understand why Siakim didn't get this surgery during the season when they sat him out..no one was playing, wtf is going on.
                      I'm baffled and confused.
                      "Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
                      My kitchen is always open to friends"

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                      • Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
                        I honestly don't understand why Siakim didn't get this surgery during the season when they sat him out..no one was playing, wtf is going on.
                        I'm baffled and confused.
                        They were hoping to rehab him without surgery, it wasn't mandatory

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                        • I thought they had to wait for the best surgeon to have an opening?

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                          • planetmars wrote: View Post
                            So according to a Blake Murphy article, the media was told he had some shoulder injury on April 18th. He had missed two games (the 16th and 18th, but played again on April 21). He played 10 straight, averaging about 37 mpg before hurting his shoulder again on May 8th against Memphis. That's when we didn't see him again.

                            Did we play him when we were trying to tank? Not that it mattered much.. we won only 3 of those 10 games so it didn't help or hurt the tank.. just more so that we played him, while hurt, in a throw away season.

                            Failure on McKechnie here? Or maybe the shoulder injury was minor enough at that point that we just let him play through it.

                            Either way could have been a costly decision by our front office / training staff in hindsight.

                            Hope he recovers okay and can get some reps in before the season starts up again.
                            If the original injury occurred on April 18th, then it's almost certainly a mis-diagnosis. My guess is the injury probably seemed like a shoulder strain at first that they thought he could play through. But the way Nurse plays his main guys heavy minutes, it probably made the injury worse.

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                            • golden wrote: View Post

                              If the original injury occurred on April 18th, then it's almost certainly a mis-diagnosis. My guess is the injury probably seemed like a shoulder strain at first that they thought he could play through. But the way Nurse plays his main guys heavy minutes, it probably made the injury worse.
                              I don't know. It's a fail somewhere. We lose at least 3 weeks and all training camp because someone wasn't over cautious. And again it was a lost year.. he didn't have to play. Fans would have been okay with him taking the rest of April/May off. But it was probably one of those injuries where it was so minor that they were okay with it.. guys play with aches and pains all the time. But he got hit hard in May on that same shoulder and that was it for him.

                              McKechnie is usually really cautious. Did he drop the ball? Maybe he isn't perfect after all.



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                              • The Raps have access to top-notch surgeons and doctors who specialize in sports injuries, etc. Alex McKechnie doesn't look at a MRI in a dark room and decide the fate of a player - they have specialists with years/decades of experience and hyper-specialized knowledge and equipment to assist in making these decisions. Are they infallible? Of course not, but unless people have Pascal's medical records and knowledge of the decision-making involved, they should comment with caution.

                                Some of this is almost as stupid as that time on here when posters were adamant that Dwane Casey decided when and how much injured players were going to play.

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