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Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post
Pascal has something to prove. Most admit his trade value is low right now (even before the operation) You keep acting like it’s a guarantee that he’s that 2nd team all-star but it’s not a guarantee. If it was GM’s would value him as such. They’d say oh it was the bubble, didn’t play at home, lived in a hotel, caught COVID. They aren’t blind to those circumstances - they’re not sure his actual play is worth 35 a year. You are but they aren’t. And neither are some of us. Or we’re at least questioning whether he is.
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DanH wrote: View Post
So you admit your only point is that Pascal struggled in situations he will likely never be in again and you fully expect he will return to his previous form of excelling the the playoffs and regular season as per our chip run and the regular season that followed it? Great, glad we could find some common ground.
I mean, if that is, as you say, your case. Then we have little to argue about.
you seem to equate every adversity that faces individual players as in this case Siakam as being all equal
to move on with this back and forth discussion…lets cheer that he redeem himself this season.
Because COVID and it’s inconveniences that goes with it is still around and most especially now that he is carrying a very young team without the luxury of players surrounding him in 2019 who aided his rise to riches.
adversity at the highest level
sink or swim season for Pascal Siakam
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The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
Damn you are stubborn, it comes with age i guess lol.
you seem to equate every adversity that faces individual players as in this case Siakam as being all equal
to move on with this back and forth discussion…lets cheer that he redeem himself this season.
Because COVID and it’s inconveniences that goes with it is still around and most especially now that he is carrying a very young team without the luxury of players surrounding him in 2019 who aided his rise to riches.
adversity at the highest level
sink or swim season for Pascal Siakam
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Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post
Pascal has something to prove. Most admit his trade value is low right now (even before the operation) You keep acting like it’s a guarantee that he’s that 2nd team all-star but it’s not a guarantee. If it was GM’s would value him as such. They’d say oh it was the bubble, didn’t play at home, lived in a hotel, caught COVID. They aren’t blind to those circumstances - they’re not sure his actual play is worth 35 a year. You are but they aren’t. And neither are some of us. Or we’re at least questioning whether he is.
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Yuri Gagarin wrote: View Post
Pascal has something to prove. Most admit his trade value is low right now (even before the operation) You keep acting like it’s a guarantee that he’s that 2nd team all-star but it’s not a guarantee. If it was GM’s would value him as such. They’d say oh it was the bubble, didn’t play at home, lived in a hotel, caught COVID. They aren’t blind to those circumstances - they’re not sure his actual play is worth 35 a year. You are but they aren’t. And neither are some of us. Or we’re at least questioning whether he is.
You are well within your rights to question whether he is worth his contract, no matter how wrong or silly it is to do so, so long as you don't mind being described as wrong or silly.
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DanH wrote: View Post
It's not that GMs aren't sure he's worth his contract, it's that his recent play has them thinking they can get him for cheap (or that he is available at all, which by all accounts, nope, not really).
You are well within your rights to question whether he is worth his contract, no matter how wrong or silly it is to do so, so long as you don't mind being described as wrong or silly.
The main reason Pascal is in rumors is because he's been put into a role (i.e. Kawhi replacement) that makes him look bad at the worst possible times. And for some reason, even our own fanbase is turning on him because of that. Not his fault - who else on this team is supposed to carry that load?
Otherwise, GMs know that Pascal is a very good-to-great player, who is a proven championship calibre #2 guy.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Wouldn't adversity at the highest level be, say, if he broke both legs? Would you be criticising his play in those conditions? Wouldn't someone suggesting that was proof he crumbled under adversity sound a little silly? Wouldn't it be funny if they thought that his play on two broken legs was a good way to judge what his play would be like in normal conditions?
if that is how you roll with some strawman arguments, that is just fine …. I’d rather open a can of worms of here and now, thus recency bias allowed me to conclude, he is Mentally Weak !
Let’s move on buddy hahaha
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I don't think Pascal has played up to his contract, but I think he can get there. I would like him to be more consistent as a shooter from three and add a midrange game. At this point when he shoots, I don't have confidence it's going in. He's not that far off from being a 32-36M player, but he needs to be a bit more consistent. I expect a good year from him.
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saints91 wrote: View PostI don't think Pascal has played up to his contract, but I think he can get there. I would like him to be more consistent as a shooter from three and add a midrange game. At this point when he shoots, I don't have confidence it's going in. He's not that far off from being a 32-36M player, but he needs to be a bit more consistent. I expect a good year from him.
He's a really good (elite even), #2 player. The big difference between him and guys like Murray, Mitchell and Ingram is that he can play defense.
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planetmars wrote: View Post
What is your expectation for the contract? He's gotten a bit more than the rookie max extension because he made an all-nba team. But that contract was deserved. It's the same contract that guys like Adebayo, Murray, Fox, Ingram, Mitchell got. He might have made a little more because of that bonus, but it's essentially the same contract.
He's a really good (elite even), #2 player. The big difference between him and guys like Murray, Mitchell and Ingram is that he can play defense.
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golden wrote: View Post
I expect better efficiency. Those guys you mentioned all have better ORTGs at similar or even much higher USG. Pascal is benefiting from the void left by Kawhi and the fact that we've been stacking our roster with offensively challenged players, so he gets a lot of shots by default.
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DanH wrote: View Post
It's not that GMs aren't sure he's worth his contract, it's that his recent play has them thinking they can get him for cheap (or that he is available at all, which by all accounts, nope, not really).
You are well within your rights to question whether he is worth his contract, no matter how wrong or silly it is to do so, so long as you don't mind being described as wrong or silly.
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