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Eastern Conference Playoff Teams Predictions: 2017-18 Who is going to the dance ?

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  • Demographic Shift
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Well it’s about a month till training camp opens. With the Irving trade completed the last remaining domino to fall in the NBA East is the ongoing Melo-drama in New York. Right now it looks like no one is interested in helping Daryl Morey get Carmelo for table scraps and promises into Houston…. so for all intents and purposes let’s assume Carmelo goes to camp in NYC with the laugh a minute Knicks.

    So its prediction time… who is going to go to the playoffs this year in the east?

    I see the East in 4 Tiers.

    The Contenders: Cavs / Raps / Whiz / Celtics

    Up and Coming: Milwaukee / Hinkies

    The Herd: Hornets / Pistons / Heat / Indy / Magic / Knicks

    Selling Hope for the Future Cuz we Suck so bad Right Now: Nets / Bulls / Hawks

    For my money the Playoff Teams will be… In Order:
    1. Cavs….2. Raps…. 3.Whiz…. 4.Chowderheads….5. Bucks….6. Heat… 7. Pistons…8. Philly.


    So here we are with 20% of the season now played by most teams.... How good was the crystal ball from the fearless predictions in August ? Above you see what the call was ... now from this seat here is what it looks like now...

    The Contenders: Cavs / Raps / Whiz / Celtics
    Are still the contenders... Boston is out of the gate like a rabbit in a horse race. Its an impressive run for sure but they are going to come back to the pack. The Raps are for all intents and purposes where they are supposed to be even after a 6 game 13 day western road trip gift from the league to open the season. The Whiz are wobbling out of the gate. A year ago the conventional wisdom was to shit all over them and they finished 4th after contending for a higher seed. This year they were picked to finish top 3 and don't look like that. Still in contender status as that starting 5 is pretty good. The Lebrons are still contenders simply because number 23 still pulls on the jersey for the Cavs but there are stress cracks to be seen. The team is indeed old. Their defense is wonky and even with Isiah Thomas on the periphery to fix the PG problem he won't help the defense. A contender.. absoeffinglutely. but the slam dunk win it going away mantra is no more.

    Up and Coming: Milwaukee / Detroit
    The Bucks aren't there yet. Yes they have the alphabet but he is a one man band. The all so prevalent sniffs of ISO ball still ring in Raptorville but the Bucks are the epitome of it. Give Giannas the ball and back off. They got Bledsoe which will help but the Bucks are still in the up and coming slot at this juncture. Stans crew from Motown are in 2nd and well deserved. I have not seen them play a single game save for the ass whooping they took in preseason at the hands of the Raps. So far they have beaten the teams they are supposed to and some they weren't (GSW on the road !). Unless the wheels fall off this is a playoff team for now.

    The Herd: Hornets / Hinkies / Heat / Indy / Magic / Knicks/ Nets


    Out of this compendium of suspects come the final two playoff participants. The Knicks are this years Heat ... They don't have a ton of talent beyond the Zinger but they play hard every night. They stood up as a team to Lebron after he said something none to bright about Frank Ntilinka. The Knicks are a lot of things but they are finally a team. The Hinkies are about where I expected. A 500 team with a full time press corp playing up every thing they do. It all rests on the knees of Embiid and the continued development of Simmons. The Heat need something however they have nothing to trade with to get what ever it is they need. The Pacers .. to the surprise of all are competative. Seems that Olidipo and Sabonis aren't stiffs and Myles Turner is continuing to improve. Watch these guys. They can run and score. The Magic got off to a good start but are becoming the Magic again. Still think that Weltman and Hammond do a makeover on this team. First guy out is Elfrid Payton followed by Aaron Gordon for yet another rebuild. The Nets are this years team plucky. They play hard and are starting to have a foundation but they are just not good enough. Its the last year without a pick. Light at the end of the tunnel. The Hornets suck. They can't score. Kemba Walker is the easts version of Damien Lillard. He puts up lots of numbers but at the end of the game they still lose. This team as constructed isn't going to the dance.

    Selling Hope for the Future Cuz we Suck so bad Right Now: Bulls / Hawks


    The Bulls are bad.. and as I wrote in August thats the plan. The kid Markaanen is very good and he brings hope. Mirotic will be dumped for nickels soon and the prospect of Lavine coming back provides more hope. Still.. watching the Bulls night in and night out is for saints. The Hawks are bad as well. They win some now and again but they will be picking in the top 6 or 7 which is what they want....

    So as it stands.. at least from this corner of the world ...Going to the dance right now are

    Raps / Chowders / Cavs / Wiz / Detroit / Bucks ... and scrapping for the the last two slots will be the Sixers... Indy ..and the Knicks.....
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:26 PM.

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  • ebrian
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    It's probably for the best. I like Tristan Thompson but only for situational play. He would have been really good 10 years ago.

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  • Chr1s1anL
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    Cavs are bring Tristan off the bench. Starting Love at Center. Two top teams in the conference now have Love/Horford as thier starters at C.

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    Last edited by Chr1s1anL; Mon Oct 2, 2017, 11:09 PM.

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  • ebrian
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    Or another view could be the lack of impact that Kyrie Irving brings...
    I dunno man. You take away the best player in the world from a team that was built around him and... you will probably lose. Tristan Thompson offers no offensive capability. Kevin Love offers no defensive capability. JR Smith (I'm actually not sure what he brings). I guess we will see in a few weeks what Kyrie Irving brings.

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  • Demographic Shift
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    ebrian wrote: View Post
    I can't say I'm surprised. That's the impact of a Lebron James. If it were any better, I'd question what Lebron brings to the table.
    Or another view could be the lack of impact that Kyrie Irving brings...
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:24 AM.

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  • ebrian
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    Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    That figure has been used pretty liberally on this forum...it's something like 3 and 17. It's not flattering whatever the exact number is.
    I can't say I'm surprised. That's the impact of a Lebron James. If it were any better, I'd question what Lebron brings to the table.

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  • Demographic Shift
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    ebrian wrote: View Post
    I don't know. We know that most of this team was built around Lebron as the centerpiece though, so my guess is the answer is "not many"? Would that be accurate?
    That figure has been used pretty liberally on this forum...it's something like 3 and 17. It's not flattering whatever the exact number is.

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  • ebrian
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    Abbas wrote: View Post
    This is how true, but ask yourself this. In the last 3 years how many games did cavs win when lebron didn't play and Kyrie did?
    I don't know. We know that most of this team was built around Lebron as the centerpiece though, so my guess is the answer is "not many"? Would that be accurate?

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  • Fully
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    Cavaliers - 57-25
    Raptors 54-28
    Celtics 50-32
    Wizards - 48-34
    Bucks 47-35
    Heat 42-40
    Hornets 41-41
    Sixers 40-42

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  • DanH
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    Alex91 wrote: View Post
    Cavs
    Bos
    Wiz
    Raps
    Bucks
    Cha
    76ers
    Mia


    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth
    This coming off a season where DeRozan, Patterson and Lowry all missed time and the team still racked up 50+ wins? In spite of not having Ibaka for the majority of the season?

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  • Abbas
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    ebrian wrote: View Post
    I think the one difference though, about Kyrie is that he has now witnessed and experienced first hand on what it takes to win. I don't think he necessarily knew that when he was all alone in Cleveland. He's a man now, maybe not the wisest of men but nevertheless, the little boy in the early years of Cleveland is long gone.

    He also is aware of all the doubters and will have a chip on his shoulder. This is a guy who pretty much scored at will against the NBA Champs. I think they'll be okay but overall I think they've only moved up a bit due to all the lost glue guys like Olynyk, Crowder, etc.
    This is how true, but ask yourself this. In the last 3 years how many games did cavs win when lebron didn't play and Kyrie did?

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  • Mess
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    Maury wrote: View Post
    It's hard to say if the celts really got any better, and in my mind they got worse. They lost an awesome leader in IT, they're biggest starter is going to be al horford again, they lost all of their perimeter defenders save smart and their defence was already pretty bad. How good is Kyrie? I among others don't think he can lead a winning team. And horford is getting older and losing what's left of his athleticism.
    Have a feeling Hayward will be their most important player anyway.

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  • Mess
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    Alex91 wrote: View Post
    Cavs
    Bos
    Wiz
    Raps
    Bucks
    Cha
    76ers
    Mia


    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth
    But Boston, Cleveland and Washington have more depth to withstand an injury to one of their two best players?

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  • Alex91
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    Cavs
    Bos
    Wiz
    Raps
    Bucks
    Cha
    76ers
    Mia


    I don't value Raps as high as everyone else seems to, because they just don't seem to have the depth to over come a injury or one of the best players. If Lowry goes down we're toast, if DD or Norm gets hurt we won't have any depth

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  • ebrian
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    I think the one difference though, about Kyrie is that he has now witnessed and experienced first hand on what it takes to win. I don't think he necessarily knew that when he was all alone in Cleveland. He's a man now, maybe not the wisest of men but nevertheless, the little boy in the early years of Cleveland is long gone.

    He also is aware of all the doubters and will have a chip on his shoulder. This is a guy who pretty much scored at will against the NBA Champs. I think they'll be okay but overall I think they've only moved up a bit due to all the lost glue guys like Olynyk, Crowder, etc.

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