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JamesNaismith wrote: View PostNorm has just been awful this year.
Coincidence that when he was in the starting line up they struggled and now he's on the bench and they're struggling?!
He really needs to stop forcing his game and being so damn predictable with the straight line drives. One thing he really, really needs to work on in the off season is a mid range game and there's no excuse when you got the King of it on your team that is already friends with you. It would do Norm wonders with his speed if he could play with a change of pace, pull up from the mid range, some ballhandling in traffic, backdowns, fadeaways, spinmoves etc
Right now he has no confidence in his 3pt shot, teams are going under the screen and awaiting his straight line drive to the basket which 9x out of 10 is leading to a tightly contested shot when Norm already has pretty poor touch around the basket or having a help defender dig in to impede his ballhandling. He needs to start taking some pointers from DeMar immediately and also get back to picking his spots...and locking into his defense, ZERO excuse for why he isn't. We seen with PG and Middleton, he's 100% of locking down his man and it seems to feed his confidence besides leading to run outs and breakaway dunks.
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Norm's issues in my opinion are all mental. He got an extension and that can play a toll. He then had a pretty big injury and those are not always the easiest to recover from.
I don't know what it will take to get him out of his head.. maybe he just needs one good game and he'll bounce back. His best skill is defense. Just needs to try and stop the guy in front of him. Like he did in the playoffs against the Bucks.
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That game also sucked.. glad they got the win, but it was way too close. That team needs to get out of the West coast ASAP.
WTF with Troy Daniels getting like 30 points. Who the hell is he?
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Norm needs a hesitation dribble or jab step. Dude just has one speed right now.
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DanH wrote: View PostNorm is sucking, but I don’t mind giving him minutes to work his way out of it, though giving him a star to play beside would help him a lot.
I had similar thoughts in his first couple seasons, but didn't want to sound like chicken little, and wanted to just enjoy the ride. I hope he turns it around, but Casey needs to reign him in and remind him what made him successful - defense, effort, and playing hard off the ball. Stop pretending you're the second-coming of DeRozan, young gun.Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:21 AM.
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S.R. wrote: View PostOr you just let guys play through the ups and downs that always happen in an 82 game season.
But we knew coming into the season he would struggle with the bench. And he struggled way more with the starters than I expected, but his struggles with the bench are WAY worse. And so long as they keep rolling out all-bench units (which I expect even more of with Wright back and too many guards in the rotation), I can't see him getting a chance to play more of a background role, where he excels. And I definitely wouldn't screw with the suddenly working starting unit just to give Norm a boost (that judging from the start of the season may not be effective anyway).
So barring Casey starting to use the star+bench units more, I could see Powell struggling like this for a while. He's just not a 6th man type of player, and he's being used that way.
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Or you just let guys play through the ups and downs that always happen in an 82 game season.
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Norm has just been awful this year.
Coincidence that when he was in the starting line up they struggled and now he's on the bench and they're struggling?!
He really needs to stop forcing his game and being so damn predictable with the straight line drives. One thing he really, really needs to work on in the off season is a mid range game and there's no excuse when you got the King of it on your team that is already friends with you. It would do Norm wonders with his speed if he could play with a change of pace, pull up from the mid range, some ballhandling in traffic, backdowns, fadeaways, spinmoves etc
Right now he has no confidence in his 3pt shot, teams are going under the screen and awaiting his straight line drive to the basket which 9x out of 10 is leading to a tightly contested shot when Norm already has pretty poor touch around the basket or having a help defender dig in to impede his ballhandling. He needs to start taking some pointers from DeMar immediately and also get back to picking his spots...and locking into his defense, ZERO excuse for why he isn't. We seen with PG and Middleton, he's 100% of locking down his man and it seems to feed his confidence besides leading to run outs and breakaway dunks.
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It's pretty clear that Deebo is the best player on this team now. Lowry is too inconsistent.
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tDotted wrote: View PostIs that not even more concerning? How can they be struggling against crappy benches? I think it's clear that they've come back down to earth.
Lowry/DeRozan need to play with them more.
Sent from my LG-H831 using TapatalkLast edited by Chr1s1anL; Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:56 AM.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostBench has only struggled the last 5 games or so. Which have all been against bad teams.
Lowry/DeRozan need to play with them more.
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DanH wrote: View PostI joked on twitter that the matchup of the night was JV’s great clutch time net rating versus Fred’s horrible one, and JV won out, if slightly.
In seriousness, we’re throwing away points. The all bench units need to die, at least until Wright is back (against good teams anyway) to try to salvage the offence. VanVleet closing games is super dumb, and desperately needs to stop. Norm is sucking, but I don’t mind giving him minutes to work his way out of it, though giving him a star to play beside would help him a lot.
Take the road win, go home. Take some solace that the starters blew them out as they were supposed to, just the bench was garbage, and that bench look should never exist in meaningful games.
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