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#marlies 2, #texasstars 0 after 40 minutes. Toronto one period away from Calder Cup title.
— Mike Zeisberger (@Zeisberger) June 15, 2018
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rocwell wrote: View Post#marlies 2, #texasstars 0 after 40 minutes. Toronto one period away from Calder Cup title.
— Mike Zeisberger (@Zeisberger) June 15, 2018
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Everything 2018 Off Season
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The .@Raptors will hold a pre-draft workout today with the following players; Jared Terrell, Zach Lofton, Theo Pinson, Desi Rodriguez, Hayden Dalton and Wenyen Gabriel. #WeTheNorth
— RaptorsMR (@RaptorsMR) June 14, 2018
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI don't think you really look to trade JV unless you're blown away by a deal. I wasn't too impressed with Poeltl's development. He is a good, mobile defender at C and strong offensive rebounder, but he is sorely lacking in other areas (defensive rebounding and offensive versatility being big concerns) and still just way too soft.
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Also, in terms of Memphis and the #4 with Chandler Parsons - Parsons and Wayne Selden and the #4 (and probably at least one more pick, a decent second-rounder or something) for Ibaka and Powell works, money-wise, and is fair value for both teams if the Raps can snag Doncic or Triple-J with the pick. Memphis turns Parsons into a player who can still actually go when he wants to, and gets Powell as a potentially useful wing. Toronto gets the #4 at probably the cheapest possible price, and if they get playable games out of Parsons that's just sort of a bonus really. (The Raps' training/physio staff are possibly the best in the league, but come on, it's Chandler Parsons.)
Obviously this deal is better for Toronto than it is for Memphis, but if Memphis were smart they'd take the risk and start the tank now. But they're going to compete to the bitter end, so we might as well benefit from their awful GM.
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magoon wrote: View PostPoeltl is twenty-two. In developing-big terms, he is still basically a toddler. It's way too early to make judgements about what he'll end up being.
It's never too early to speculate on a player's potential because you also have to speculate on their value and how you can maximize it. I can see Poeltl getting better, but I have a hard time picturing him really addressing his weaknesses.
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magoon wrote: View PostAlso, in terms of Memphis and the #4 with Chandler Parsons - Parsons and Wayne Selden and the #4 (and probably at least one more pick, a decent second-rounder or something) for Ibaka and Powell works, money-wise, and is fair value for both teams if the Raps can snag Doncic or Triple-J with the pick. Memphis turns Parsons into a player who can still actually go when he wants to, and gets Powell as a potentially useful wing. Toronto gets the #4 at probably the cheapest possible price, and if they get playable games out of Parsons that's just sort of a bonus really. (The Raps' training/physio staff are possibly the best in the league, but come on, it's Chandler Parsons.)
Obviously this deal is better for Toronto than it is for Memphis, but if Memphis were smart they'd take the risk and start the tank now. But they're going to compete to the bitter end, so we might as well benefit from their awful GM.
It's probably DeMar or nothing if the Raps are after the pick. And if you think their GM is stupid, it might still be our best option. By giving them DeMar and taking back Parsons' awful deal, you may actually be able to convince them to add more and squeeze another asset out of them.
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Lot of moving parts here but If the Griz want to get rid of Parson and Denver wants to get rid of Faried:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9pvusxo
Basically to Toronto : #4 pick, Jamal Murray, Trey Lyles, Faried, Parsons
To Memphis: Miles, Herangomez (from Denver), MBealsey (from Denver), M. Richardson (from Toronto), McKinnie (from Toronto)
To Denver: DeMar DeRozan
Why for each team: The Griz want to get out from underneath Parsons contract, they get half the money coming back in the trade but easily moveable contracts. They give up the 4th pick as reported.
Denver gets an established All-star to go along with Milsap, Jokic, and Harris, plus they get rid of Farieds contract and keep their draft pick. Originally reports indicate that 14th and Faried is up for grabs. Getting a 4 time Allstar with good young pieces plus a shitty contract isn't unheard of.
Toronto gets Jamal Murray, Trey Lyles to add to their young core, plus the 4th pick in the draft. Parsons and Faried would be filler for a couple years but there's a lot of young talent on cheap contracts to develop in that time. Jamal Murray, VV, Wright back court makes Kyle expendable or you can try to run with a 2 point guard line up like we have in the past.Last edited by saints91; Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:57 AM.
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Mindlessness wrote: View PostLove was a great player but concussions have really dropped his play. In fact, I'd be worried for his health, he should consider retiring, concussions are no joke.
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