Everything 2018 Off Season

[planetmars]

Boston and Philly didn't need to make moves.

Boston nearly made the NBA finals WITHOUT KYRIE AND HAYWARD. Plus they are a young team and still getting better.

Philly is another example of a team that should grow leaps and bounds this year just based on young guys getting better.

Indiana has made some low key decent moves.

I have us pegged at 3rd in the East right now as we are currently built.

Philly will only be better than the Raps if they get Kawhi. If they don't then I think they are actually worse off than they were before they got Ersan and Belli.

Boston is the only team I'd be worried about. Indiana did get better.. but I still think we can beat them quite easily.

[Demographic Shift]

I think Kawhi not moving has kept a lot of trades from happening thus far. Once he and Kevin Love are traded to Toronto in a scenario where we give up next to nothing, all will be well.

A future 2nd in 2022 and 2023 plus the rights to Nando de Colo should be enough. It’s a lot I know..but sometimes you have to reach and without concrete proof Leonard is all the way back I’m torn on the 2023 pick.

[Apollo]

Well a report indicate then Anthony Davis did not want Cousins back because the Pelicans played better with Mirotic in the lineup but there has to be more then that...time will only tell.

So in conclusion the Pelicans gave the Kings Evans, Heild, 2017 1st round pick and 2017 2nd round pick for free. The Kings got a lot of shit for that deal and the Pelicans got ZERO shit for letting Cousins boogie.

[Apollo]

I think Kawhi not moving has kept a lot of trades from happening thus far. Once he and Kevin Love are traded to Toronto in a scenario where we give up next to nothing, all will be well.

I don't know what the reason is going to be after Leonard is moved. I thought the narrative was that the fireworks were in the queue for after LeBron decided what he was doing.

[Apollo]

Boston and Philly didn't need to make moves.

Boston nearly made the NBA finals WITHOUT KYRIE AND HAYWARD. Plus they are a young team and still getting better.

Philly is another example of a team that should grow leaps and bounds this year just based on young guys getting better.

Indiana has made some low key decent moves.

I have us pegged at 3rd in the East right now as we are currently built.

Some people are overvaluing this Raptors team. Standing still bumps them back to maybe third.

[Demographic Shift]

Philly will only be better than the Raps if they get Kawhi. If they don't then I think they are actually worse off than they were before they got Ersan and Belli.

Boston is the only team I'd be worried about. Indiana did get better.. but I still think we can beat them quite easily.

That’s the way to early top four this year...Boston..Toronto..Philly and Indy....
Most likely to implode.The Wizards.
Most improved team. Knicks + Bucks.
Tank Brigade...Magic...Charlotte..Hawks..Chicago.
Most likely to join the Tank Brigade. Heat.
Pluckiness team. Pistons and Nets.
Team unknown...The Cavs.

[LJ2]

Did Kemba resign with Charlotte?

[saints91]

I don’t think his contract is up

[Hotshot]

Dp

[Hotshot]

So in conclusion the Pelicans gave the Kings Evans, Heild, 2017 1st round pick and 2017 2nd round pick for free. The Kings got a lot of shit for that deal and the Pelicans got ZERO shit for letting Cousins boogie.

Yep, this is the reason for the current state of affairs of two poorly run franchises. Luckily The Pelicans did draft one of the best players in the league in AD so they got that going for them which is nice.

[inthepaint]

Boston and Philly didn't need to make moves.

Boston nearly made the NBA finals WITHOUT KYRIE AND HAYWARD. Plus they are a young team and still getting better.

Philly is another example of a team that should grow leaps and bounds this year just based on young guys getting better.

Indiana has made some low key decent moves.

I have us pegged at 3rd in the East right now as we are currently built.

Meh... I don't know, I'll believe it when I see it. There's a big difference between theoretical potential and actual on-court product.

What people often do is consider Irving & Hayward as a cumulative, linear addition to the celtics on-court product. Like a given. In reality, these guys will be taking minutes of key pieces that took the celtics to the ECF to begin with (Rozier, Smart, Tatum and Brown). You can't play 7 guys. They'll be integrating Hayward that, albeit really good, hasn't played ball in a year, coming off a very serious injury. Kirye is a superstar but will also be coming off an injury that has interfered with his game more than once, and affect his durability as a player. They also never played together before. I remember right after OKC assembled PG, Melo and Westbrook everyone put them as the "team to watch for", because theoretically, they should be great. Just never really materialized on the court.

As for Philly, they have a brittle player in Embiid, and two point guards that can't shoot. As a team, they still turn over the ball a lot, and just lost the two vets (Ilyasova and Belinelli) that provided the shooting they needed and gave them their playoff/late season boost for the 3rd seed last year. Again, the growth potential is certainly there, no doubt more so than the Raps', just gotta convert it though.

As for the Raps, they certainly don't have the same level of stashed potential as these two, but it's not that our young guys are frozen in time without developing either. We were one of the youngest playoff teams last year. I'm excited to see how guys like OG, Siakam, FVV and even Delon come back as. That said, one of them can very well come back as a Powell, and Powell himself might bounce back. Again, hard to predict, but I'm excited to see how things will actually unfold.

[Beagle]

Zach Lowe thinks:

The most logical all-in play on the board is Toronto offering DeRozan, one of Pascal Siakam, Delon Wright, Jakob Poeltl, and OG Anunoby, and a future first-round pick. Upgrade from DeRozan to Leonard, and the Drakes have a real shot to make the NBA Finals. Maybe Leonard would love Toronto, and enjoy playing in May and June in front of that nutty crowd.

If Leonard walks, the damage isn't so severe. After this season, DeRozan will either opt in to $27.7 million or enter free agency seeking a mega-contract as he turns 30. But DeRozan is really good, Leonard is a huge flight risk, and my hunch is the Spurs would demand too much future stuff for Toronto's taste (if the it has any interest in the first place).

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...les-lakers-nba

The damage isn't severe?! That is gutting the bench, the loss of DeRozan notwithstanding. Masai would never do that deal. I'd say a fair price is DeRozan plus two of those four. Or just DDR + FVV plus a future or two. San Antonio has to lose Kawhi anyway. They don't have the upper hand really.

[Truth Teller]

Zach Lowe thinks:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...les-lakers-nba

The damage isn't severe?! That is gutting the bench, the loss of DeRozan notwithstanding. Masai would never do that deal. I'd say a fair price is DeRozan plus two of those four. Or just DDR + FVV plus a future or two. San Antonio has to lose Kawhi anyway. They don't have the upper hand really.

Its one of the bench players. Not the entire bench.

[DanH]

Its one of the bench players. Not the entire bench.

Yeah, and I'd happily give up two of the bench prospects if it's the right two.

[Apollo]

Zach Lowe thinks:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...les-lakers-nba

The damage isn't severe?! That is gutting the bench, the loss of DeRozan notwithstanding. Masai would never do that deal. I'd say a fair price is DeRozan plus two of those four. Or just DDR + FVV plus a future or two. San Antonio has to lose Kawhi anyway. They don't have the upper hand really.

Kawhi is not worth it to the Raptors. To land him they'd need another superstar in the mix or confidence that Kawhi would resign despite that.