Everything 2018 Off Season

[planetmars]

Mbah a Moute signing a one year deal with LAC. Houston has now lost two really good wing defenders in Moute and Ariza. They've had a pretty tough summer. They still need to work out a deal to keep Capela.

[planetmars]

I hear the Cavs are looking to move Korver. He has a contract for $7.5 million this season. In 2019-2020, he also has a $7.5 million deal with $3.4 million guaranteed. 10 hours ago – via Cleveland Plain Dealer

Via HoopsHype

Could always use shooting.. but the guy is 37 years old now. Could trade him into our TPE and give back a 2nd rounder for him.

[S.R.]

Via HoopsHype

Could always use shooting.. but the guy is 37 years old now. Could trade him into our TPE and give back a 2nd rounder for him.

Trade DeMar to an EC playoff team then pick up Korver.

That was mean.

[planetmars]

Looks like the Carroll TPE (about $11.8M) is expiring tonight. We still have the Joseph TPE (about $7.6M) so can still trade for Korver without giving any players back (as an example). That one expires on the 14th.

[LJ2]

Now that's an interesting choice. Butler's definitely the safer pick and Kawhi's higher risk, higher reward.

I think I'd still swing for the fences on Kawhi. If the goal is to lift the ceiling as high as possible, Kawhi can be the best player on a championship team - I don't know if Jimmy Butler can.

I miss Lieweke. He would have seen to it that we added both Butler and Leonard.

[LJ2]

Bjorkgren was the Suns developmental coach back when Earl Watson was their head coach. That's not really encouraging considering how bad some of the Suns draft picks have been developing.

We seemed to have missed on all of our first choices.

[Demographic Shift]

We seemed to have missed on all of our first choices.

Its hard to polish some of the turds that the suns drafted...and they have drafted some real steamers aside from Booker.

Alex Len...Dragan Bender...Marquis Chris’s..Tyler Ulis...

[MixxAOR]

Bjorkgren was the Suns developmental coach back when Earl Watson was their head coach. That's not really encouraging considering how bad some of the Suns draft picks have been developing.

he was with Raps for some time now though. He was a video coordinator.

[grindhouse]

First, DeMar has basically been proven to not be a true franchise player. If he's the #1 option of your team, it's ceiling is capped. He has repeatedly been unable to lead this team to any meaningful playoff success.

Second, he has never shown the kind of abilities that go well next to another top tier wing scorer. Can you play him off Kawhi? Teams don't respect Demar's 3. Do you make Kawhi be the #2 option and continue to use the flawed DeMar as #1.

If you trade DeMar for Kawhi, you make Kawhi the #1 option with Lowry and JV picking up the slack as your other weapons. Both play better with others, and OG fits as a 3&D guy, while Ibaka also can be effective as a shooter in that lineup.

That lineup is far more balanced on both ends than anything you'd be left with trading JV or Lowry instead...both of whom the Spurs aren't likely to be interested in. JV can opt out after next season so he could be a rental, and Lowry is aging...so for either one we need a lot of sweetener, and if it comes down to prospects/picks other teams can outbid us quite easily.

Pretty much the only deal that does make sense is trading DeMar for Kawhi, and it is also the one most likely to increase the ceiling of the team.

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Unless DeRozan comes off the bench or u move him to point guard. With a good offensive system you don’t need a true point just someone to bring up the ball but DeMar can’t guard anyone so that makes that hard

[DanH]

Looks like the Carroll TPE (about $11.8M) is expiring tonight. We still have the Joseph TPE (about $7.6M) so can still trade for Korver without giving any players back (as an example). That one expires on the 14th.

Carroll TPE is good to the 13th.

Also, the Joseph TPE was partially used in the Bruno trade, so it is just above 6M in value now. We have a Bruno TPE at 2.4M that lasts until next winter.

[Mack North]

I can't believe there's not more hype on this forum about the Kawhi rumor. I fully expected an Everything Kawhi thread.

Everyone on vacation or what?

[Mitchell Duong]

I can't believe there's not more hype on this forum about the Kawhi rumor. I fully expected an Everything Kawhi thread.

Everyone on vacation or what?

I just think nobody believes its true, so no point getting excited.

[Mack North]

I just think nobody believes its true, so no point getting excited.

I've seen posters get a lot more excited about a lot less than this though.

Dog days of summer, I guess...

[DanH]

I've seen posters get a lot more excited about a lot less than this though.

Dog days of summer, I guess...

We've also already talked through basically all the options in trading for him, all the arguments pro and con, and everyone kind of knows where they sit. Until something actually happens, the dead horse is fairly well beaten.

[S.R.]

I can't believe there's not more hype on this forum about the Kawhi rumor. I fully expected an Everything Kawhi thread.

Everyone on vacation or what?

It's really not a rumour per the original Washington Post piece, it was speculating (and reporting about other people speculating) about all the possibilities for a Kawhi deal. There were no sources or leaks, nothing from the Raptors or the Spurs. It was a story about shooting the shit at summer league. But some of the follow up reports are actually removed by three degrees from the original, quoting a story that quoted a story that quoted the Post piece. It's hilarious, it's like kids playing telephone in their 3rd grade classroom but it's blog boys instead.

That said, I'd love a DeMar for Kawhi trade!