Not gonna lie, I’m a bit nervous about FVV’s contract. Love the kid we are pretty solid at point guard. Well he is not at Lowry’s level I hope that would be the catalyst to move Kyle and upgrade another position.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostSo did Powell. Numbers weren't quite as good but was productive for us off the bench and a beast when he started. Now we're looking to basically dump him.
There is a consequence to continually handing out long-term deals to role players, especially ones without any kind of proven multi-year track record.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostSo did Powell (show impact with the bench). Numbers weren't quite as good but was productive for us off the bench and a beast when he started. Now we're looking to basically dump him.
There is a consequence to continually handing out long-term deals to role players, especially ones without any kind of proven multi-year track record.
Powell's promise was always in the short spurts he got as a starter (especially in the playoffs). He was never particularly productive off the bench.
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Barolt wrote: View PostWHAT?
Norm was NEVER, EVER, EVER in the Sixth man of the Year conversation. Fred is a nominee for the award.
And why do media awards suddenly matter? DeMar was on the All-NBA 2nd team, guess we should be keeping him forever then if he's a top 4 guard? Wake up.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostI said so "did" Powell referring to being productive off the bench. Not so "was" referring to him being a 6MOTY candidate.
And why do media awards suddenly matter? DeMar was on the All-NBA 2nd team, guess we should be keeping him forever then if he's a top 4 guard? Wake up.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostI said so "did" Powell referring to being productive off the bench. Not so "was" referring to him being a 6MOTY candidate.
And why do media awards suddenly matter? DeMar was on the All-NBA 2nd team, guess we should be keeping him forever then if he's a top 4 guard? Wake up.
It relies on his actual production off the bench, and the various advanced (and not so advanced) measures which show he was a huge positive influence on the team, which obviously eclipses Norm's.
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DanH wrote: View PostOh, protect me from having a deal that just sits on the books! What would we do if we wanted to rebuild and had a $10M PG sitting on our books? How would we manage it?
The reality is, the only reason to be worried about FVV's salary is if you a) are the owners and give a crap about profit margins or b) there are no other reasons. In the short term, he will help, and if he doesn't, apparently he can be replaced for cheap no problem, and we don't gain any additional flexibility by not signing him. In the long term, the books are so clean after this two year window that he's not going to kill you anyway.
Heck, here's an idea. We should take a RISK that FVV is actually as good as he has shown, by giving him a contract, rather than playing it safe and letting him walk.
Honestly, I'm not 100% convinced they won't give a mandate to Masai that he has to get out of the tax. They've never paid it before.That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.
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DanH wrote: View PostOMG, you are so disingenuous. You know that the argument for FVV does not remotely rely solely upon his 6MOY candidacy.
It relies on his actual production off the bench, and the various advanced (and not so advanced) measures which show he was a huge positive influence on the team, which obviously eclipses Norm's.
At the end of the day. Handing out large contracts to role players repeatedly gets you nowhere and can bite you in the ass. FVV isn't getting us anywhere closer to a championship.
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Other Scott wrote: View PostI mean, reason (a) does matter Dan, whether we like it or not. Not to us exactly, but I know MLSE will have a limit as to how far into the tax they want to go.
Honestly, I'm not 100% convinced they won't give a mandate to Masai that he has to get out of the tax. They've never paid it before.
Masai may choose to duck the tax. But I doubt he does so at the cost of losing a guy like FVV.
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Other Scott wrote: View PostI mean, reason (a) does matter Dan, whether we like it or not. Not to us exactly, but I know MLSE will have a limit as to how far into the tax they want to go.
Honestly, I'm not 100% convinced they won't give a mandate to Masai that he has to get out of the tax. They've never paid it before.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostI'm aware of what it relies upon. He's the one who decided to explode about his 6th man of the year candidacy. I don't care for that hence the reason I cast it aside.
At the end of the day. Handing out large contracts to role players repeatedly gets you nowhere and can bite you in the ass. FVV isn't getting us anywhere closer to a championship.
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