Everything 2018 Off Season

[LJ2]

To me the question mark isn't the 1 year rental thing. That's something you can't predict and the risk you take. And even if it was 1 year in hindsight there should be little regret because as s.r. said, this core has a small window anyways we might as well dramatically increase our chances at a finals in 2019.

So that's not my worry. My worry is kawhi himself. Haven't heard nary a word out of him in months but really bad vibes about his uncle and group he rolls with. I would need assurances before going any further dude is going to report to training camp and even then do it in a positive manner. Cause this still has a chance of blowing up in the face of whatever team trades for him.

Yup, if Kawhi doesn't suit up for us then we suck this year and end up likely without our own first rd pick. We will have cap space though.

[DanH]

Next summer will be a great summer to have cap space, especially for a team that has struggled to bring in free agents in the past.

There's basically no scenario where we have cap space next summer. Not significant cap space, anyway.

Our cap space window starts in 2020 unless we see a whole pile of moves.

[white men can't jump]

To me the question mark isn't the 1 year rental thing. That's something you can't predict and the risk you take. And even if it was 1 year in hindsight there should be little regret because as s.r. said, this core has a small window anyways we might as well dramatically increase our chances at a finals in 2019.

So that's not my worry. My worry is kawhi himself. Haven't heard nary a word out of him in months but really bad vibes about his uncle and group he rolls with. I would need assurances before going any further dude is going to report to training camp and even then do it in a positive manner. Cause this still has a chance of blowing up in the face of whatever team trades for him.

No team is making the trade with San Antonio if they can't speak with Kawhi and get assurances he'll play and be a pro for a season.

This is a non-factor to me. If a deal happens we should be confident it's because he will play.

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[LJ2]

There's basically no scenario where we have cap space next summer. Not significant cap space, anyway.

Our cap space window starts in 2020 unless we see a whole pile of moves.

Wait, what? So if we move DeMar in this trade and Kawhi walks then next summer then won't we have some?

[LJ2]

Also, if the trade goes down, can Kahwi be traded by the trade deadline? I just ask because if he refuses to play for us I'm sure LA will be interested in getting him there for the playoffs.

[DanH]

Wait, what? So if we move DeMar in this trade and Kawhi walks then next summer then won't we have some?

Correct.

If we assume the trade is DD plus Poeltl plus Wright plus our 1st, and that JV will opt in to his player option next year, and that we don't pick up Richardson's team option, and that Kawhi walks, we still have $108.5M committed to the remaining roster. The cap is projected at $109M.

[DanH]

Also, if the trade goes down, can Kahwi be traded by the trade deadline? I just ask because if he refuses to play for us I'm sure LA will be interested in getting him there for the playoffs.

If the trade goes down, we could trade Kawhi the same day, so long as we don't combine his salary with other contracts to take back a bigger salary in the trade.

[KeonClark]

Correct.

If we assume the trade is DD plus Poeltl plus Wright plus our 1st, and that JV will opt in to his player option next year, and that we don't pick up Richardson's team option, and that Kawhi walks, we still have $108.5M committed to the remaining roster. The cap is projected at $109M.

My god that's depressing lol

[Barolt]

If the trade goes down, we could trade Kawhi the same day, so long as we don't combine his salary with other contracts to take back a bigger salary in the trade.

But, just to add to this: Doing so almost certainly is a lose-lose.

[DanH]

My god that's depressing lol

No one was kidding about the three year window the Raptors set up when they signed those contracts last summer. It was basically set in stone then that they would not have cap flexibility until 2020. We've known this for a year.

[DanH]

But, just to add to this: Doing so almost certainly is a lose-lose.

Oh, it's a bad idea, for sure. Trade for him if you want him.

Still, having the ability to pull the chute in February if the year is a disaster for whatever reason isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Puffer]

If the trade goes down, we could trade Kawhi the same day, so long as we don't combine his salary with other contracts to take back a bigger salary in the trade.

This is good to hear. So if Kawhi sulks, the Raptors could trade him to LA for something plus future picks. Potentially helping in the rebuild. LA would love to get him a year early because LeBron is not going to go along with any tank moves this year. LA playing in the west, even with LeBron and Kawhi could wind up with mid 20's picks, unless the mysterious injury flares up again, which only improves the picks. So there is some insurance against "bad Kawhi."

[LJ2]

Oh, it's a bad idea, for sure. Trade for him if you want him.

Still, having the ability to pull the chute in February if the year is a disaster for whatever reason isn't necessarily a bad thing.

That is really good to hear. At the least we could get some assets back to replace losing OG and the likely first round pick.

[Barolt]

Updated odds on which team Kawhi Leonard will play for next season (@betmybookie):

Raptors EVEN
Spurs +400
Lakers +500
Clippers +600
76ers +800
Celtics +800
Bucks +1000
Knicks +1500
Cavaliers +2000
Rockets +2000
Nets +2500
Field +500

— OddsShark (@OddsShark) July 12, 2018

[thead]

I would only trade for Kawhi on the condition that he immediately sign a max extension.