Derozan isnt in the top 20 of players in the NBA. His former team-mate Lowry is better then him.
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DeMar was fantastic last year. His play really dropped off though after the all-star break. Might have something to do with this depression or his father.. or he was just beat up.
But I had DeMar better than Lowry for most of last year.. and I think he deserved the second all-nba title, plus the MVP mentions (I believe he finished 10th on the ladder).
DeMar improved his decision making.. was a really good play maker. And invested in his 3pt shot, and wasn't shy to take it. If he can keep that up he's a top 20 player easily.
It's the defense though that's always going to be a problem. And Lowry can struggle at times, but DeMar is no where the defender Lowry is.
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ReubenJRD wrote: View PostThanks.
Well, if we go off raw stats, Kawhi is a much more efficient basketball player and greatly affects one side of the ball significantly more than DeRozan ever has. So, I think that account comes purely from: adding efficiency, better percentages, adding defence.
To be honest, it's not that crazy to think Kawhi is that much better of a player than DeRozan.
DeRozan is maybe a top 15 player. Maybe.
(Personally, I think Lowry is a better player).
Kawhi Leonard, when healthy, is arguably the second best player in the world.
Hopefully our bench guys continue to play strong this year and doesn't regress. I'm hoping Fred is at least as good as he was last year. He was the main reason why our bench was so awesome. OG might since he might see less time as a starter or a change in position (if he moves from SF to PF for example). But again I'm cautiously optimistic there too.
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planetmars wrote: View PostDeMar was fantastic last year...
It's the defense though that's always going to be a problem. And Lowry can struggle at times, but DeMar is no where the defender Lowry is.
Realistically, he's not 1A guy, so, that in itself puts him behind quite a few guys. A list off the top of my head.
1. LeBron
T-2. Durant
T-2. Leonard
4. Curry
5. A. Davis
6. Harden
7. Giannis
8. Westbrook
10. CP3
11. P. George
12. J. Butler
13. K. Irving
14. D. Cousins
15. K. Thompson
16. Embiid
17. Lillard
18. Wall
19. D. Green
20. Lowry
Then, defensively, he really can't guard anyone, which hurts his 'stock' even more in my opinion. He's an all-star calibre scorer, with below average defence and inconsistent range.
planetmars wrote: View PostAs DanH mentioned above.. we also have to take into account our bench. Our young guys were unknown so it was harder to build a model around their value. This year we have what they provided to us last year.. especially OG and Fred.. and those help improve our numbers.
Hopefully our bench guys continue to play strong this year and doesn't regress. I'm hoping Fred is at least as good as he was last year. He was the main reason why our bench was so awesome. OG might since he might see less time as a starter or a change in position (if he moves from SF to PF for example). But again I'm cautiously optimistic there too.
I am cautious too, but I expect them to be as good, if not better, and the team is arguably deeper and more versatlie than last season's roster.Last edited by ReubenJRD; Sat Aug 4, 2018, 06:29 PM.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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golden wrote: View Post
Durant has become one of the best defenders in the league, by necessity. He's also a better shooter and a shot creator than Kawhi.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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Lets keep it simple: Kawhi is the 3rd best SF in the NBA. Durant is damn good and pretty much a legit All-star since being 20 years old. Kawhi is a legit All-Star since turning 24 years old and only been at this status for 2 years. Kawhi needs a large sample of games to prove he is better then Durant and as a result of last season, his questionable injuries placed him farther back then he was until he can prove otherwise.
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Didn't see this one posted so forgive me if it has been. Perhaps the Ringer has been reading DanH's columns
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/8...-kawhi-leonard
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Jclaw wrote: View PostDidn't see this one posted so forgive me if it has been. Perhaps the Ringer has been reading DanH's columns
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/8...-kawhi-leonard
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http://www.nba.com/powerrankings
NBA.com power rankings have the Raptors 2nd overall in the East. Pay attention to Key incoming players, its funny.
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Vegas odds are out:
NBA seas wins
— Jeff Sherman (@golfodds) August 5, 2018
Atl 23.5
Bos 57.5
Brk 32.5
Cha 35.5
Chi 27.5
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 37.5
GS 62.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 47.5
LAC 35.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 34.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 46.5
Min 44.5
NO 45.5
NY 29.5
OKC 50.5
Orl 31.5
Phi 54.5
Phx 28.5
Prt 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 43.5
Tor 54.5
Uth 48.5
Wsh 44.5
54.5 wins for Raptors. Tied with Philly in the East for 2nd.
I would bet over.. but Kawhi and a new head coach could bring that down if things don't go according to plan.
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Hotshot wrote: View Posthttp://www.nba.com/powerrankings
NBA.com power rankings have the Raptors 2nd overall in the East. Pay attention to Key incoming players, its funny.
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planetmars wrote: View PostVegas odds are out:
NBA seas wins
— Jeff Sherman (@golfodds) August 5, 2018
Atl 23.5
Bos 57.5
Brk 32.5
Cha 35.5
Chi 27.5
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 37.5
GS 62.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 47.5
LAC 35.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 34.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 46.5
Min 44.5
NO 45.5
NY 29.5
OKC 50.5
Orl 31.5
Phi 54.5
Phx 28.5
Prt 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 43.5
Tor 54.5
Uth 48.5
Wsh 44.5
54.5 wins for Raptors. Tied with Philly in the East for 2nd.
I would bet over.. but Kawhi and a new head coach could bring that down if things don't go according to plan.
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