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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostHow good you think players are or aren't is directly proportional to the city you live in and the teams you cheer for.
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DanH wrote: View PostHuh? I cheer for both the Raptors and Leafs, so how is that influencing my evaluation of the two big additions this summer?
Two players...say Johnny Gaudreau in Calgary and Mitch Marner in Toronto...two really good players who have similar games.
Whose better?
In Calgary I think Johnny Hockey gets the nod. In Toronto it’s probably Marner.
Just depends on where you live and who you cheer for.
Except if your trex of no fixed address and a born contrarian.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostSorry I think you misread...
Two players...say Johnny Gaudreau in Calgary and Mitch Marner in Toronto...two really good players who have similar games.
Whose better?
In Calgary I think Johnny Hockey gets the nod. In Toronto it’s probably Marner.
Just depends on where you live and who you cheer for.
Except if your trex of no fixed address and a born contrarian.
Never mind that there are people capable of making objective observations even while recognizing their inherent biases.
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DanH wrote: View PostOkay, but how is that relevant to the conversation?
Never mind that there are people capable of making objective observations even while recognizing their inherent biases.
Over the past few days there have been thoughts on comparing players in two different sports and what their impact will be on their teams....how geographical biases could shape opinions on the value of players who play the same sport...wondering how the preseason SI rankings might or might not change for Demar....a guessing game of “if a hockey player were a basketball player who would he be ?” .....and minor interest in the injury to devin Booker....it’s cocktail party chit chat.
Content is on the horizon.Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Sep 11, 2018, 01:59 AM.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostWhat conversation..this thread is a series of meandering ideas killing time till training camp starts.
Over the past few days there have been thoughts on comparing players in two different sports and what their impact will be on their teams....how geographical biases could shape opinions on the value of players who play the same sport...wondering how the preseason SI rankings might or might not change for Demar....a guessing game of “if a hockey player were a basketball player who would he be ?” .....and minor interest in the injury to devin Booker....it’s cocktail party chit chat.
Content is on the horizon.
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I dont know if this was mentioned yet but theres a rumor that we trade Ibaka for Jimmy Butler since he is a sure thing to leave the Wolves next year.
Highly doubt that Thibs would want Ibaka but it raises some eyebrows while we wait for training camp lol
https://www.inquisitr.com/5060934/nb...adeaway-world/
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Spark wrote: View PostI dont know if this was mentioned yet but theres a rumor that we trade Ibaka for Jimmy Butler since he is a sure thing to leave the Wolves next year.
Highly doubt that Thibs would want Ibaka but it raises some eyebrows while we wait for training camp lol
https://www.inquisitr.com/5060934/nb...adeaway-world/
But I do think if the Raptors make an offer on Butler, it's an offer around excess contracts and prospects. But with the risk involved, they probably don't let Siakam or OG go in the deal, which unfortunately means talks probably never get off the ground.
Best offers I could come up with:
Ibaka, Green and Wright for Butler, Dieng and Tyus Jones: saves Minny 4M in salary, getting them under the tax, sheds them some long term salary (20-21 salary for Dieng is 17M), swaps PG prospects (they don't seem to like Jones at all), and gives them Ibaka for two seasons. Not sure they'd want that. Raps can throw in a 2021 pick, but doubt they do that unless it's heavily protected.
Miles, Green, Powell, Wright, Malachi for Butler, Dieng, Jones: saves Minny 7M in salary, gives them a couple upside pieces in Wright and Powell, and two expirings (if Miles opts out) as well. Malachi is for salary matching. Could use Brown instead to reduce the dead salary. Requires Minny to like Powell.
These are both not great offers, so unless the market is as dead as it was for Kawhi, or teams are scared off of Jimmy's rental status, or Minny really wants to send him East and ignores better offers from their own conference... Hard to envision this happening. Of course, Kawhi was a hope and a prayer, so...
One thing of interest... Green is eligible to be re-packaged in a trade as of the 18th of September. So if such a trade was a possibility this summer, it couldn't have happened until now...
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Spark wrote: View PostI dont know if this was mentioned yet but theres a rumor that we trade Ibaka for Jimmy Butler since he is a sure thing to leave the Wolves next year.
Highly doubt that Thibs would want Ibaka but it raises some eyebrows while we wait for training camp lol
https://www.inquisitr.com/5060934/nb...adeaway-world/
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Spark wrote: View PostI dont know if this was mentioned yet but theres a rumor that we trade Ibaka for Jimmy Butler since he is a sure thing to leave the Wolves next year.
Highly doubt that Thibs would want Ibaka but it raises some eyebrows while we wait for training camp lol
https://www.inquisitr.com/5060934/nb...adeaway-world/
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Forgot the link to the article the "rumor" is based on.
https://fadeawayworld.net/2018/09/03...-jimmy-butler/
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DanH wrote: View PostYou were literally replying to my post where I was talking about comparing Tavares and Kawhi across sports. That's the conversation you entered by responding directly to my post.Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:16 AM.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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Spark wrote: View Posthow come Green is available to be traded already? I thought him and Kawhi cant be traded until a few more months?
You are probably thinking of the restriction on trading free agents you've signed to a contract. For example, Fred VanVleet re-signed using his Early Bird Rights, so he can't be traded until January 15th. If he'd signed with another team, he couldn't be traded until December 15th.
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