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  • saints91
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    I like the hard cap idea, including no exceptions. 70% of your cap to sign a max free agent sounds great, and then a higher minimum based on years of service or an arbitrator can put a minimum price tag on players. I don't believe in fully waiving a player without recourse. But if you want to waive a healthy player an arbitrator can decide how much will go against your cap.

    I also think the contracts could be longer. If a player chooses to get locked in for 10 years why not let him?

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  • BrydenB
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    I really like the draft after free agency idea. I also love the idea of getting rid of the draft. The worse teams can offer the prospects more money (like maybe a lot more), but they also have the option of playing with a decent team for less if they want. Would a prospect turn down Sacremento, Atlanta or Cleveland offering $10 million annually to play in Boston for $2 million? Maybe, buts thats the fun of it all.

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  • planetmars
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    I like the draft after free agency proposal. Hope that one sticks. Makes trading picks and draft rights a lot easier.

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  • DanH
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    gk17 wrote: View Post
    Like it, but I see two problems: the Summer League and the rookies have less time to prepare for the season with their new team.
    Right now Summer League happens really early. Could easily be in August instead.

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  • gk17
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    The draft auction idea is really compatible with another suggestion I've seen - which is holding the draft AFTER free agency. Then teams would know what cap room they have to bid at the draft.
    Like it, but I see two problems: the Summer League and the rookies have less time to prepare for the season with their new team.

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  • DanH
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    gk17 wrote: View Post
    I like this.

    And I would change the draft process: A DRAFT AUCTION could be so much fun.

    1) Whoever ends up in the last place has the first vote to sign a player out of the draft class for 3 years - at an arbitrarily high contract level
    2) BUT: Every other team can outdo this contract. The team that offers the most gets the player.
    3) If the team with the first vote fails to sign it's first option, try again!

    That's the basic idea. But of course there is still a lot to be done in detail. e.g.

    * Do we need limits what a team may spend at the auction - depending on where you have finished the regular season? Probably! But the differences should not be too high.
    * How can that be compatible with the hard cap? The amount a team can spend at the auction (up to the team limit) = hard cap - team salary + annual hard cap raise
    * If teams have no money left, but still have draft picks - bad luck!
    The draft auction idea is really compatible with another suggestion I've seen - which is holding the draft AFTER free agency. Then teams would know what cap room they have to bid at the draft.

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  • gk17
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Same thing I've been saying since the 2011 lockout.

    Hard cap. No individual max. High minimums to get the players association to pass it. Done.
    I like this.

    And I would change the draft process: A DRAFT AUCTION could be so much fun.

    1) Whoever ends up in the last place has the first vote to sign a player out of the draft class for 3 years - at an arbitrarily high contract level
    2) BUT: Every other team can outdo this contract. The team that offers the most gets the player.
    3) If the team with the first vote fails to sign it's first option, try again!

    That's the basic idea. But of course there is still a lot to be done in detail. e.g.

    * Do we need limits what a team may spend at the auction - depending on where you have finished the regular season? Probably! But the differences should not be too high.
    * How can that be compatible with the hard cap? The amount a team can spend at the auction (up to the team limit) = hard cap - team salary + annual hard cap raise
    * If teams have no money left, but still have draft picks - bad luck!
    Last edited by gk17; Wed Jul 4, 2018, 05:28 AM.

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  • NeedTristanThompson
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    So I don't know enough about all this cap stuff, though it's interesting. But as for fixing the draft, which sounds like it might fix a lot, why not just give the number 1 & number 2 picks to whoever finished ninth in each conference? I haven't thought the whole thing out, but maybe 3rd and 4th to the 8 seeds as well, so teams still want to make the playoffs, or something. The point is, no more draft lottery, instead, reward teams for getting certain places like ninth, then everyone will be doing their best to win, cousins gets offers, and so on. And maybe you don't even need to incentivize teams to do better than 9th, as making the playoffs might be incentive enough due to extra revenue gained from playoff games, etc.

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  • Other Scott
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    Mostly I'd go back in a time machine and prevent the cap spike from happening.

    Otherwise the league isn't in that bad a place overall, once you get past Golden State ridiculousness. I'd probably kill the Tax-Payer MLE, and reduce tax paying teams to paying players minimum salaries to fill out their rosters, but I don't think that would stop the Cousins thing. We might just see him in Golden State on the minimum rather than 6M.

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  • psrs1
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  • magoon
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    High hard cap (like, double the soft cap now) + eliminate the draft entirely.

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  • 007
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    A lot of the problem these days is with the players themselves.

    In the 90s and 2000s everybody wanted their own team, and nobody threatening their place at the top. Saw it with t mac, Shaq and kobe, Iverson etc. Nowadays it's trendy to hop on someone else's train and create like the avengers. Instantly worked for boston via trade so LeBron got slapped around by them for awhile then took the power in his own hands and created it in Miami. From there kd took it to a new shameless level. Now it's almost become a joke, cousins is just being petty and flipped everyone the bird
    I think what's to blame for this is the "Look at mah ringz Chuck" mentality. If fans and media perpetuate the notion that all success is invalidated if it doesn't result in a title, and if players know they will be made fun of and discounted somehow if they don't get a ring, then this is what happens

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  • slaw
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    A lot of the problem these days is with the players themselves.

    In the 90s and 2000s everybody wanted their own team, and nobody threatening their place at the top. Saw it with t mac, Shaq and kobe, Iverson etc. Nowadays it's trendy to hop on someone else's train and create like the avengers. Instantly worked for boston via trade so LeBron got slapped around by them for awhile then took the power in his own hands and created it in Miami. From there kd took it to a new shameless level. Now it's almost become a joke, cousins is just being petty and flipped everyone the bird
    I agree with this to some extent, in that, for example, the baseball PA would never allow it. They would blackball the agents and drive them out and the players involved would be ostracized.

    To me, though, a big issue is that teams are incentivized to lose. You will always get more of what you incentivize. Cousins is a good example. There are lots of teams he could presumably help but got no offers? Why? Cause 10 or so teams, maybe more, are intentionally trying to suck. The tanking shit is just as bad for the game.

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  • slaw
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    This is a player's league.. and the league wants to encourage player movement and free agency. I don't want to get rid of that.. Half the excitement of the NBA is free agency and trades. You add more rules like hard caps and those kinds of things diminish and the off season become boring.

    A simple rule that I think can help with something I think most teams might actually favour:

    Championship teams forgo ALL exceptions the following season. So if you win it all you cannot use your MLE, or BAE, or any TPE's etc. If you want to fill out your roster than you have to get guys that went undrafted in the 2nd round on minimum deals. If you want to ring chase, than sit out a year and then try again.

    Warriors should not have been able to use their tax payer mid-level. Miami shouldn't have either the year they won. If you want a super star team and win that way.. cool. But the following year will be really tough to repeat.
    I would go further and do away with all of the exceptions, period. If you want to go over the cap to sign your own guy, then knock yourself out but no new guys. You're never going to get parity in basketball but you can stop this ridiculous stacking action that goes on (or at least reduce it drastically).

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  • JimiCliff
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    That's if you assume the 25th best player in the league gets 70M.
    I don't think it's that straightforward. If I was still up north, I'd find a nice seat on the deck and crunch some of these numbers a little more hehe. But there's no doubt, getting rid of the current max makes things way, way more interesting. At minimum, it gets rid of the brain-dead GM move of 'Oh, this guy's an All-Star? MAX HIM'.

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