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  • Puffer wrote: View Post
    So here is a question. Who, out of the Raptors current rotation, is Green better than. And I'm asking thinking of the rehabbed and rehabilitated Green, not the one with a torn muscle. Where does he land, 1 though 10?

    I'd have to rank the current Raptors:
    1. Kawhi
    2. Kyle
    3. Serge
    4. JV
    5. VanVleet
    6. Green
    7. OG
    8. Delon
    9. Miles
    10.Siakim

    But I'm not sure exactly where to slot Siakim. He could come anywhere from right after OG to the 10 spot.
    Personally...

    1 Kawhi
    2 Lowry
    3 JV
    4 OG
    5 FVV
    6 Ibaka
    7 Green
    8 Siakam
    9 Wright
    10 Miles
    11 Norm
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    • DanH wrote: View Post
      Personally...

      1 Kawhi
      2 Lowry
      3 JV
      4 OG
      5 FVV
      6 Ibaka
      7 Green
      8 Siakam
      9 Wright
      10 Miles
      11 Norm
      Wow. Big props for OG. That is encouraging. Are you counting on player improvement/decline in these rankings Dan?

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      • Puffer wrote: View Post
        Wow. Big props for OG. That is encouraging. Are you counting on player improvement/decline in these rankings Dan?
        Not significant decline/improvement. Young guys getting a little better, sure.
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        • Puffer wrote: View Post
          So here is a question. Who, out of the Raptors current rotation, is Green better than. And I'm asking thinking of the rehabbed and rehabilitated Green, not the one with a torn muscle. Where does he land, 1 though 10?

          I'd have to rank the current Raptors:
          1. Kawhi
          2. Kyle
          3. Serge
          4. JV
          5. VanVleet
          6. Green
          7. OG
          8. Delon
          9. Miles
          10.Siakim

          But I'm not sure exactly where to slot Siakim. He could come anywhere from right after OG to the 10 spot.
          This is a good thread worthy question in my opinion. Everyone will have different rankings.

          I would go with:

          1. Kawhi
          2. Kyle
          3. Jonas
          4. Fred
          5. OG
          6. Danny
          7. Pascal
          8. Delon
          9. Serge
          10. CJ
          11. Norm

          Pascal needs a shot.. and I'm not convinced he's figured out how to do that yet. But if he can develop one, he could end up 3rd in that list. He can be really, really good. Most potential on the team (more than OG) in my opinion.

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          • planetmars wrote: View Post
            This is a good thread worthy question in my opinion. Everyone will have different rankings.

            I would go with:

            1. Kawhi
            2. Kyle
            3. Jonas
            4. Fred
            5. OG
            6. Danny
            7. Pascal
            8. Delon
            9. Serge
            10. CJ
            11. Norm

            Pascal needs a shot.. and I'm not convinced he's figured out how to do that yet. But if he can develop one, he could end up 3rd in that list. He can be really, really good. Most potential on the team (more than OG) in my opinion.
            I could see him at 7, depending on what happens to Serge, Delon's health and Pascals own work this summer. Delon has been either unlucky or fragile, I don't know which. I think if they manage Serge's minutes he could have a big bounce back year, with the way the team is structured now. I don't necessarily agree he has more potential than OG, but I agree he has a lot. I also wonder about Green and how much of his drop off last year was due to his ongoing, undiagnosed injury.

            Looking foward to the season and finding out about Norm, Delon, Pascal, OG, Green, Serge and the filler at the bottom of the rotation. In fact, I'm wondering what JV brings this year. Good times.

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            • Do you ever stop to ask how in the world the Raptors got a top 5 player and still have a roster 11 guys deep? Seriously. Holy shit.
              "We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard

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              • I like everyone's lists but I have a feeling Norm will take CJ's spot in our top 10. I really think he'll bounce back to a slight improvement on his 2016-17 numbers. Nurse seemed extremely confident he would bounce back in his press conference scrum and even identified what caused the problems, a lack of chemistry with the bench unit because he was working too much solo and not with the group. If Casey was still the coach I would have zero confidence in a bounce back, thank god that's not the case.

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                • Puffer wrote: View Post
                  So here is a question. Who, out of the Raptors current rotation, is Green better than. And I'm asking thinking of the rehabbed and rehabilitated Green, not the one with a torn muscle. Where does he land, 1 though 10?

                  I'd have to rank the current Raptors:
                  1. Kawhi
                  2. Kyle
                  3. Serge
                  4. JV
                  5. VanVleet
                  6. Green
                  7. OG
                  8. Delon
                  9. Miles
                  10.Siakim

                  But I'm not sure exactly where to slot Siakim. He could come anywhere from right after OG to the 10 spot.
                  1. Kawhi
                  2. Kyle
                  3. JV
                  4. VanVleet
                  5. OG
                  6. Siakam
                  7. Wright
                  8. Green
                  9. Serge
                  10. Miles
                  Twitter: @ReubenJRD NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                  • Primer wrote: View Post
                    I like everyone's lists but I have a feeling Norm will take CJ's spot in our top 10. I really think he'll bounce back to a slight improvement on his 2016-17 numbers. Nurse seemed extremely confident he would bounce back in his press conference scrum and even identified what caused the problems, a lack of chemistry with the bench unit because he was working too much solo and not with the group. If Casey was still the coach I would have zero confidence in a bounce back, thank god that's not the case.
                    Norm's got a ton of work to do on his dribbling, finishing counters and decision-making. Not to mention the 3-ball. His skill-level and ability to do anything beyond straight line drives and the occasional open 3 got exposed last season in Nurse's offense which put more onus on role players to make plays. I'm not as optimistic that he can close that skill gap in one off-season, but he's a really hard worker, so you never know.

                    That said, there was no reason for his defense to also fall off the way it did last year.
                    Last edited by golden; Thu Aug 2nd, 2018, 03:27 PM.

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                    • Primer wrote: View Post
                      I like everyone's lists but I have a feeling Norm will take CJ's spot in our top 10. I really think he'll bounce back to a slight improvement on his 2016-17 numbers. Nurse seemed extremely confident he would bounce back in his press conference scrum and even identified what caused the problems, a lack of chemistry with the bench unit because he was working too much solo and not with the group. If Casey was still the coach I would have zero confidence in a bounce back, thank god that's not the case.
                      Well I also think that Miles is the most likely piece to get traded. He is a veteran shooter on a reasonable contract. If the Raps want to do something like shore up the big rotation, it's probably easier to find a taker for Miles than Powell.

                      Our team is deeper with shooting now and can survive the loss of Miles if they do want to make a minor move.

                      However the fact that he is a specialist and a proven piece on the court makes it more likely he'll be ahead of Powell to start the year. Powell will really have to earn any minutes if we're healthy.

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                      • Tier 1- Kawhi
                        Tier 2- Kyle
                        Tier 3- Jonas, Fred, OG, Pascal
                        Tier 4- Serge, Delon, Danny, CJ
                        Tier 5- Norm

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                        • Puffer wrote: View Post
                          So here is a question. Who, out of the Raptors current rotation, is Green better than. And I'm asking thinking of the rehabbed and rehabilitated Green, not the one with a torn muscle. Where does he land, 1 though 10?

                          I'd have to rank the current Raptors:
                          1. Kawhi
                          2. Kyle
                          3. Serge
                          4. JV
                          5. VanVleet
                          6. Green
                          7. OG
                          8. Delon
                          9. Miles
                          10.Siakim

                          But I'm not sure exactly where to slot Siakim. He could come anywhere from right after OG to the 10 spot.
                          In all honesty; I feel this should be it's own thread. I think outside of the top 3; everyone's list could very well diverge in interesting ways.

                          1. Kawhi
                          2. Kyle
                          3. JV
                          4. Fred
                          5. OG
                          6. Ibaka
                          7. Green
                          8. Siakam
                          9, Delon
                          10. Miles
                          11. Norm

                          ball4life wrote: View Post
                          Tier 1- Kawhi
                          Tier 2- Kyle
                          Tier 3- Jonas, Fred, OG, Pascal
                          Tier 4- Serge, Delon, Danny, CJ
                          Tier 5- Norm
                          My version of this would be:
                          Tier 1 - Kawhi
                          Tier 2 - Kyle
                          Tier 3 - JV, Fred, OG
                          Tier 4 - Serge, Green, Siakam, Delon
                          Tier 5 - Miles, Norm
                          Last edited by Just Is; Fri Aug 3rd, 2018, 09:12 AM.
                          "My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
                          "If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy

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                          • I would actually rank OG 3rd. He did much better in impact stats than JV last year, and I think he'll only get better this season.

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                            • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                              I would actually rank OG 3rd. He did much better in impact stats than JV last year, and I think he'll only get better this season.
                              They both ranked just outside top 20 at their position by RPM, with JV having a higher raw RPM, and PIPM (a better version of RPM) had JV at +1.95 to OG's +0.47. And obviously in terms of production, JV is worlds better.

                              That said, if OG takes a leap, he could surpass JV this year, so it's perfectly fair to rank him 3rd on that expectation. Let's just not get carried away with evaluating his season last year.
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                              • Tier 1: Kawhi
                                Tier 2: Lowry, JV
                                Tier 3: OG, Siakam, Wright, FVV
                                Tier 4: Green
                                -- average nba player is here --
                                Tier 5: Miles, Norm
                                Tier 6: Ibaka

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