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PRESEASON GAME 4: Brooklyn Nets vs Toronto Raptors in Montreal - OCT 10, 2018, 7PM ET
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostThink they picked up the pretty dependable Boss Davis as well...
The Nets just might have enough giddyup in a what looks to be a claiming race in the east to “Show”.
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golden wrote: View PostGood call on the Nets. They've quietly assembled 11-12 deep of quintessentially average NBA players, which is probably all you need to grab that last spot in the East these days.
The Nets just might have enough giddyup in a what looks to be a claiming race in the east to “Show”.
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MixxAOR wrote: View PostNorm is out today
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Scraptor wrote: View PostDo you not remember what happened after Serge got here? Casey glued JV to the bench for most 4th quarters. It was bad enough before the trades (JV was 8th in fourth quarter minutes), but after Ibaka and Tucker arrived he was persona non grata at 10th.
Lowest minutes per game and blocks per game of his career, always getting the hook after strong first halves... it was definitely a cursed year imo.
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octothorp wrote: View PostJV's Godaddy season was 2016-17, right? Why do we think this was cursed? In most stat categories, he had his best or second-best seasons to that point in his career. Second-most points, most rebounds, steals, assists, fewest turnovers, etc. Granted there were things he struggled with as well particularly defensively, but it's not what you'd call a 'cursed' season. It seems to me his season is getting a bad rep it doesn't deserve just so it can be lumped in with Norm's awful second season to form a narrative. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for labelling and being paranoid about curses where there's justification, but I don't think this is the case.
Lowest minutes per game and blocks per game of his career, always getting the hook after strong first halves... it was definitely a cursed year imo.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostYeah... its hard to see more than 22 to 25 mins if JV doesnt start.
He could come in at the 6 min mark in the first.. then play to 8/9 mark in the second. 9-10 MINS
Start the third and come out the 5/6 min mark... 6-7 MINS
Back in in the fourth at the 8 min mark to close or come out with 3 to go if they go small to close... 5-8 MINS
Will be interesting to see what the Nets look like this year. .. They have upgraded the talent base a bit over last year with the addition of Faried.... D. Russell...RH Jefferson ...Jarrett Allan and Caris Levert should be better as well....and Dinwiddie is a pretty good scorer off the bench....They could squeak into the post season at 7 or 8.
This could be a playoff round 1 preview...
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DanH wrote: View PostSee, this is my concern: if you are playing a guy 28 minutes, you should be starting him, because compressing 14 minute halves into the final 16-18 minutes of each half is a great way to end up with exhausted players at the end of the game. It's something Patterson struggled with a lot here when we were starting Scola and Siakam for no reason.
He could come in at the 6 min mark in the first.. then play to 8/9 mark in the second. 9-10 MINS
Start the third and come out the 5/6 min mark... 6-7 MINS
Back in in the fourth at the 8 min mark to close or come out with 3 to go if they go small to close... 5-8 MINS
Will be interesting to see what the Nets look like this year. .. They have upgraded the talent base a bit over last year with the addition of Faried.... D. Russell...RH Jefferson ...Jarrett Allan and Caris Levert should be better as well....and Dinwiddie is a pretty good scorer off the bench....They could squeak into the post season at 7 or 8.
This could be a playoff round 1 preview...Last edited by Demographic Shift; Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:02 PM.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostWhich is why I suggested a matchup dependent fluid starting lineup. Ibaka when its a Horford or a Love at the 5, and Valanciunas when it's your standard Drummond or Howard lug.
Basketball is the only sport that for some reason needs this finality in the lineup..
Love will take 3s when he's open, and Ibaka is at least as likely to leave him to help in the paint as JV. Love is also a pretty strong post player and great rebounder. Serge isn't a good rebounder and tends to be more foul prone in the post. Of course, the only thing I heard out of Cleveland, like a week or two ago, is that they will alternate starting Thompson and Nance at C.
At least Horford isn't a great rebounder and still tends to face up more.
There really aren't many C matchups where Ibaka is overall a better matchup than JV. Jokic? Well they start him with Millsap, so you need both bigs. Davis? He will probably eat up either guy, but I'd rather have the more physically imposing guy and better rebounder. May also need both bigs depending on who they start next to him.
Anyway, we'll see how things go. I also agree with the premise Dan outlined that it will be harder to play JV more minutes if you're starting him off the bench, because you squeeze his minutes into less overall time.
I also think there's still a good chance both start together a fair amount, though Nurse seems to be feeling out the 1-big lineups a lot so far, so we'll see.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostWhich is why I suggested a matchup dependent fluid starting lineup. Ibaka when its a Horford or a Love at the 5, and Valanciunas when it's your standard Drummond or Howard lug.
Basketball is the only sport that for some reason needs this finality in the lineup..
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S.R. wrote: View PostThat other teams start their big frontcourts and finish small (if not with starters) is the other issue. Ibaka's going to have 48 minutes of foul trouble if he has to start against Cousins, Drummond, Embiid, etc.
Basketball is the only sport that for some reason needs this finality in the lineup..
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